Why you should think twice about getting a student visa

[nameless]

Nov 23, 2015 19:22:09 GMT 12 koru_ph said:

It's not feasible for most Filipino nurses to obtain NZNC registration before travelling to NZ. In almost 7 years with INZ, I've only seen 1 applicant from the Philippines who was granted registration without CAP. Also, most nurses would jump straight into work if granted registration. I have yet to encounter a Filipino nurse with registration who has deferred taking up employment in NZ to pursue further studies there.

Initial registration I mean. The one that you need to process before you do the CAP. it is of 2 parts and it takes time to process. As of the present, most of the newly registered NZRNs could not jump directly to employment based on my personal experience and of my friends. It could be because there are a lot of CAP graduates every month now sa dami ng nag lalabasang new CAP schools.Too much supply for the demand. Things have changed.
Thanks for the reply.

[nameless]

Aug 27, 2015 14:43:08 GMT 12 aBiSh @admin said:

That is very good to hear koru_ph! Thank you! Dahil nandito kami mismo sa NZ and we can directly see how unprepared students end up, we would really appreciate if agencies like you would at least mention about other visa types and set correct expectations. Just let them know that sometimes it's not easy to get a skilled job once they finish their studies and there is a possibility that they have to go home if they don't get a skilled job.

Feel free to participate in our other discussions as well. That way marami kang makukuhang input about the perceived versus reality circumstances (i.e. cost of living, accommodation, job market) and pass on the info to your clients.

Maraming salamat sa iyo.

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Excellent point sir. Medyo malaki yung difference ng expectations ng mga tao while nasa ph pa vs reality pag dating dito sa nz.

[aBiSh @admin]

aljomf baka may input ka rito.

[hiedeirinco]

hi po. I am planning to move to NZ. However, I don't know exactly where to start. I've seen that this thread had long been dormant. I am currently residing here in Indonesia and planning for a cross-country via student visa path as I have learned when I got home recently. I am going to invest, yes, but with no certainty of how my life will be out there. I've started filling out the EOI but I have to complete it later due to my pending IELTS date of exam. I am very glad to come across with this forum with the hopes that I will be doing things on the right path.

[allune]

hiedeirinco to be honest pati ang forum members dito di rin alam kung anong magiging plano mo kasi di naman namin alam ang background mo etc.

[hiedeirinco]

Hello po ms. allune and to the other members po.

I am teacher po sa Indonesia now. I am planning to pursue greater heights po sa NZ so nung umuwi ako nagreview po ako ng IELTS. Unfortunately po, wala ako idea on how and where to start. Tapos naka-attend ako ng seminar and they introduced po ung Student Visa path. They are asking for Php 2000 for assessment lang and Php 20k for the initial processing with a guarantee of me leaving in two weeks time. Upon hearing this, mejo hesitant po ako sa idea for a student visa. I know it'll be worth it. I still lack info po and I am still weighing my options. Nagtry ako maghanap ng jobs sa mga available websites pero required nila resident or may working visa. Naghahanap po ako ng pinoy teachers din who found their home in NZ and sana malaman ko po kung anu ung right path for me. I know wala pong immigration advice dito but I was just wondering po kung anu yung mga options po for teachers like me. In my case po ba, should I take student visa path?

[smccth]

Guys I'm totally new here, naka-attend ako ng seminar about this Student Visa. Balak ko sanang mag try this October but I just happened to find this site at nakapagbasa basa ako. I worked in the Philippines for more than 10 years as an IT System Support and will be 2 years here in Saudi as an IT Administrator. Graduate po ako ng vocational course as Computer Technician at graduate din ng Computer Engineering through ETEEAP. Pasok kaya po ako sa SMC nila?

[Ano ni Moose]

smccth unfortunately that information is not enough to determine if you are qualified or not, you need to start from the beginning and check if your points add up to qualify for SMC

Ano ni Moose

[jobo]

smccth - actually the NZ immigration website will really help you. The website calculates your points based on your qualifications. Please note that the website says you need 100 point to qualify however in actual you will need 140(I do not know why, hopefully someone could shed light on this). Also read carefully the criteria for the points.

Just find time to go through the website.

here is the link so wont need to search : www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas

[ModM]

jobo

100 points is the minimum to qualify/be eligible to be selected
140 points is the requirement to be "automatically selected"

There is a limited number of applicants who are selected so they start with the people who have 140 points, and those who have st least 100 points and a job offer / existing job. If exhausted na yun that is the time they check naman yung ibang points. Kaso madami competition so hindi talaga bumababa sa 140 na walang job offer

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[jobo]

ModM

Clear as crystal. Thanks!

[maylee]

I'm new here but I tried to read through some of the posts esp yung sa study payhway. Yung iba naman kaya option nila to study kasi mabilis nakakaalis. Lalo namkung ready ang funds ninyo. May kilala ako, in 1 month, nakaalis na agad. Kasi may pera naman. Willing sila to invest on tuition fee and few months na walang trabaho. Pero ngayon, after 3-4 months, may trabaho na din na part time.

Kung willing naman kayo to apply for a job online and wait for a reply, mas maganda. Kung hindinkayo nagmamadali. Madami labg talaga and option is to study kasi mabilis makaalis. Yung kasabayan nila na nag apply ng work , naghihintay pa din ng response sa application, yung student nakatapos na. So choice niyo kung magaaral or magapply ng job.

[Heisenberg]

I wished I've seen this thread earlier. Graduate ako ng Nursing pero hindi board passer, paalis na ko this October and ang course na kinuha ko is Diploma in Business (with Healthcare management) level 7. I'm looking for a pathway to PR, I'm highly motivated even though na alam ko na yung hirap ng pag kuha ng skilled work diyan. I guess naghihingi ako ng advice sa inyo, thanks guys

[allune]

Heisenberg with no skilled experience it will be hard. You'll probably find it easier than most because you have a Nursing degree which you can spin into getting a caregiver job (lots of jobs like this in NZ). Not sure if you can still get residence with that job but ang bali balita ngayon eh hanggang work visa na lang (may skill levels din kasi and levels 1-2 skilled jobs yung madaling bigyan ng residence; healthcare assistant is level 3). Having been around with students yung mga business lang ang inaaral sila yung nahihirapan maghanap ng work kasi sobrang varied ng experiences nila and most of the time may Kiwi na available sa mga job na gusto nila. Business kasi yung catchall degree para sa non-health degrees. Now kung healthcare management at may background sa health usually sa resthomes ang bagsak. Of course may outliers (those with better jobs) but that's possible because of their experience and naibenta nila ang sarili nila.

I guess just do your best. Try everything. Maybe find something na in line with your experience talaga. And huwag panghinaan ng loob. You know the drill. =)

But if you still want to be a nurse you have to study again. You wouldn't qualify for the CAP (bridging).

[Heisenberg]

Sept 20, 2016 14:24:32 GMT 12 allune said:

Heisenberg with no skilled experience it will be hard. You'll probably find it easier than most because you have a Nursing degree which you can spin into getting a caregiver job (lots of jobs like this in NZ). Not sure if you can still get residence with that job but ang bali balita ngayon eh hanggang work visa na lang (may skill levels din kasi and levels 1-2 skilled jobs yung madaling bigyan ng residence; healthcare assistant is level 3). Having been around with students yung mga business lang ang inaaral sila yung nahihirapan maghanap ng work kasi sobrang varied ng experiences nila and most of the time may Kiwi na available sa mga job na gusto nila. Business kasi yung catchall degree para sa non-health degrees. Now kung healthcare management at may background sa health usually sa resthomes ang bagsak. Of course may outliers (those with better jobs) but that's possible because of their experience and naibenta nila ang sarili nila.

I guess just do your best. Try everything. Maybe find something na in line with your experience talaga. And huwag panghinaan ng loob. You know the drill. =)

But if you still want to be a nurse you have to study again. You wouldn't qualify for the CAP (bridging).

I can't study further, I'm putting all I have on the course I'm taking. Not bad if resthomes, I can deal with it if nakuha ko ang job na yun, anything will do as of this momemnt pero the main goal is PR. Right now I'm just full of motivation and currently gathering information from everyone's experiences, I will grind my way to PR. Thanks allune

[obey]

Mabuhay kababayans! Like many of you, I am also planning to take further study in IT next year.

Background:
10 years IT Experience (IT Project Management, IT Business Analysis, Helpdesk Support)
3+ years job experience in Philippines and 7 years in Singapore
BS ComSci graduate (Level 5 equivalent in AUS standards)

So basically, I applied for a handful of schools and successfully received the following offers:

AIS - Graduate Diploma in IT Level 7 (135 credits)
Unitec - Graduate Diploma in Computing Level 7
EIT - Postgraduate Diploma in Information Technology Level 8 (120 credits)
Wintec - Postgraduate Diploma in Applied Information Technology Level 8 (120 credits)

Nabasa ko sa mga thread and thru research na it's better to take Level 8 especially if your next step is to get a Master's degree. Questions:

1. Pinagpipilian ko po ung EIT and Wintec. Almost same yung tuition fee pero gusto ko po malaman which city ang mas makakakuha ng part time job? Hamilton (Wintec) or Napier (EIT)?

2. Any past or current students ng schools na nabanggit? Would you mind sharing your experience?

3. Is it better to stay at the campus or flat sharing is more convenient?

[allune]

obey is your qualification assessed by ACS? Have you tried having it assessed by NZQA so NZ standards?

1. Hamilton is a larger city. I think you'll have better chances there. And you can choose to transfer to other cities after naman

2. - not a student -

3. That's your choice. Living on campus definitely is more convenient but is it cost effective?

[obey]

Yes allune. ACS' assessment was AQF Diploma level only. Di ko pa natry sa NZQA po. Nevertheless, I really plan to study for career advancement na din since my bachelor's degree is not so recognizable due to the college na inattendan ko.

Sabi din ng gut feeling ko, Hamilton over Napier. Ang onti ng tao sa Hawke's Bay compare to Hamilton.

Thank you allune for spending time to respond!

[Sniff]

obey dont mind me asking but do you really want to study or just to go to NZ? 10 years IT experience is more than enough to apply for SMC and a lot cheaper than being a student.

[obey]

@sniff yan din akala ko but after having an assessment sa ACS (original target ko is Aus), my degree in the philippines doesnt qualify me to get the points for the bachelor level. Nasa 105 lang ang points ko based on my personal assessment. by the way, hindi ko din maclaim ang 10 yrs ng buo coz i have different IT roles on that range. So basically, 5 years of ICT BUsiness Analysis ung tinatry kong occupation.

[Sniff]

Student route for me is the last option kasi nga mahal. If you dont qualify for SMC try WHV and SFV. Anyways its really up to you just look for other ways before committing to a student route. I took the SMC route din with different i.t fields din 5 yrs analysis and tech support background pero i used Organisation and Methods Analyst based on my past position and sakto sa description than business analyst. Well this was 2011 for sure immigration rules has changed already.

Just suggeting you check other resources kaya din naman merun mga immigration advisers. You can ask them naman initially minsan free nga first assessment nila then use it as a starting point. Good luck

[jeshsevz]

Mar 2, 2015 15:27:26 GMT 12 aBiSh @admin said:

Ako marami nang successful students na na-meet (level 7). Kaya wag kayo paghinaan ng loob.

Madaling option talaga ang student visa kapag kapos sa points for SMC.

If you really want to pursue this path I suggest you do the following:

• Choose the best school and program where you can really learn the skills you can use for your job hunting or when you get employed. Study their course program or syllabus. If you can afford a proper university instead of PTE, go for it.


• Equip yourself with all the knowledge you need before paying your tuition fee. Don't just read the threads in our Student section but New Zealand Lifestyle as well.


• Study what your next options are after you finish your studies. What the next visa to apply for, how the job market is, where to settle, risks, etc.


• Be open to the possibility of going back home (I met 3 people who took level 5 and went home).


In addition to what Sniff said, the reason why they offer student visas is because these agencies do not need a licensed immigration adviser for this. Quick and easy on their part, not too easy for the students.

[nk]

good read for aspiring students here in NZ

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11760721

I'd like to quote this statement from the article:

"As a result, says Collins, immigrants from poor countries such as India and the Philippines increasingly come here on student visas, with the aim of moving to a work visa afterwards and ultimately gaining permanent residency."

The article specifically mentioned Philippines, while all their examples were Indians and Chinese.
Butt hurt a bit (tagged as poor country), but its true

[aprilmarie0429]

Hello po! Baka po pwede nyo kami bigyan ng advise. Me and my partner are planning to go to NZ. I will study and my partner will work. Eto po situation.. I am a nursing graduate working in SG but my experience is not in Nursing. My Partner is in IT pero short sa SMC points kasi level 4 lang assessment sakanya ng NZQA sa qualifications nya. If she studies a level 8 postgrad in IT will it be much better kasi kapos kami sa SMC rather than me na Business na sana ittake ko pero wala ako sa Shortage skills list.

Hope to hear from anyone who can advice

[aprilmarie0429]

hi po

[aBiSh @admin]

Hi aprilmarie0429! Sorry at walang licensed immigration adviser dito. If you really need immigration advice, follow the link on my signature to look for one near you.

If you want a general idea on what you can do, start reading relevant threads. It can give you a lot of info without having to shell out money. Good luck sa inyo!

[asdf]

Please watch the video

www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/they-not-gain-residence-immigration-minister-foreign-students

[simonramirez755]

Hi po sa lahat and mabuhay po kayo!

Ask lang po may plan po kasi ako kumuha ng student visa for NZ. Mag aagency po ako and sa Nelson Marlborough I of T ung school sa Auckland. Ask q lang po as I am an IT for 7 years experience. Kamusta po ang IT market sa NZ? and is there any competition between the locals vs the foreigners? Hindi po ba guaranteed na makakuha ng work kahit na makagraduate jan ang isang foreign student particularly sa IT field?

Thanks and maraming salamat sa sagot!

[ModM]

simonramirez755

hello din sa iyo. before anything reminder Lang to introduce yourself sa introductions thread

Bakit ka mag agency? May problema ba sa documents or circumstance mo if you apply on your own? or you just prefer na may tutulong sa iyo?

Why that school in particular? Did you choose that school? Will that school give you an edge pagkagraduate? or was that a school na suggested by the agency?

Nelson is not a big city which has its good and bad sides to it. The bad side is possibly less job options than in the bigger city and the good is possibly lesser competition and when you apply for residency and diyan ka makakuha ng work may plus points kasi outside of Auckland.

There is a lot of competition among and between locals and migrants for skilled work especially IT. And definitely NO guarantee na makakuha ka work after graduating.

Even mga IT professionals na more than 10 years na ang experience nahihirapan din maghanap. Kailangan mo talaga maghanda before pumunta dito. Research about your field etc

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[simonramirez755]

Thank you po sa reply ModM


Nakapag introduce na po ako sa introduction thread .



Yung agency po is plan pa lang, hindi pa po ako nagsi-signup sa kanila. Wala naman po akong nakikitang problema sa documents ko, siguro hindi ko lng talaga alam kung saan magsisimula. Buti po nahanap ko po itong forums niyo makakapagbasa and research po ako of the realities ng buhay jan.

Ung school po is suggestion ng agency, and sa Auckland po un. Ang sabi po sakin is maganda daw po market ng IT sa Auckland? Totoo po b un?


Ganun po ba, wla talagang guarantee, so possible po na umuwi lang ako after ako mag-aral for a year?



Thanks po!