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Post by applet445566 on Feb 26, 2015 2:41:10 GMT 12
Hi Po, Ask ko lang po kung meron ditong BS Chemical Engineering at nag post grad sa NZ. Sabi po ng mga sources, business or management i take kasi mas mura. Kaso meron din nagsabi gagastos ka na lang din, bakit hindi pa ung related sa course. Meron po ba na nag business or management tinake? Tapos inclined pa rin ung career nila after mag study?
added by aBiSh @admin 2015-08-10 16:45 sa mga nagbabalak po subukan ang student visa, todo research po kayo and back read dito sa forum. most of what i know now galing dito. taking the student path is very costly and no guarantees if you'll get part-time job. i've been in welly for a month now and only got one interview yet hopeful na makakuha ng work soon. other than the tuition fee, plane ticket, miscellaneous expenses when i arrived i set aside funds for at least 6 months without work. good thing di ako na fts pero an applicant should always expect na meron fts. i suggest you do your own visa application lalo na kung medyo hirap sa budget. i worked on my visa application on my own and honestly, easy money ang nakukuha ng agency sa mga tinutulungan nila. one more thing, before leaving pinas make sure na dala nyo drivers licence nyo na card na wag yung papel. andami ko sana pwede pasukan na work kaso yung licence ko papel dahil sa bulok na lto naubusan cards bago ako umalis. haha. added by aBiSh @admin 2015-11-05 This does not include the complete requirements for each category but some important things to remember.  Hi! I dont mean to be rude to others especially to those new here in pinoykiwi pero i highly recommend to please, please, read the whole thread for students first before asking for how much, what agency, what school, how long is the application and etc kasi i assure you, makukuha nyo mga sagot sa pagbabasa ng thread sa umpisa and at the same time you are doing your own reseach na rin. Honestly for me, very helpful ang pinoykiwi, and before i did asked any questions regarding my application before, marami na akong naging idea and nakatulong sya sa pag decide and plan ko for my student visa application. Kasi for me, my decision to come here in NZ especially as a student, is life changing and its not going to be easy life here. Through pinoykiwi, i was able, in a way prepare myself for the hardships that i will face, hindi madali tlaga, magbabago buhay nyo pagdating dito.. Kaya please prepare yourself, dont ask to be spoon fed with informations that you want to ask or know lang, instead broaden your knowledge in going and living here in NZ. Im saying this because not all did have a success story, worst na nalaman ko is less than 1week pa lang yung student dito umuwi na sya kasi di kinaya.. Kaya please, bukod sa pagtulong sa admin at members dito na sagutin lahat ng queries nyo na nasagot na before pa, you are also helping yourself to really prepare physically, mentally and spiritually to go here in NZ. Lots of prayers to guide you and help you with your decision and plan kasi si Lord talaga lang makakahelp sa atin sa lahat. Godbless us all. Mabuhay ang pinoykiwi ☺️👌 Please po, sa lahat po ng nag paplan pa lang magpunta dito sa New Zealand as student visa pathway, please please please, pag isipan nyo mabuti, do a lot, i mean a lot of reading and research and most of all ask for the Lord's guidance kasi po malaki ang changes na gagawin ng immigration ngayon that even student visa holders converting to work visa ay mahihirapan kasi very strict na po ang immigration ngayon. Napakagaling at napaka buti ng mga bumubuo at members ng pinoykiwi kasi marami po kayo matututunan kung pano po makakarating dito sa NZ kaya i highly suggest do a lot of back reading. I, myself have been in this pathway last 2015 ang reality bites pag andito na po sa NZ kaya please take into consideration ang mga experiences ng iba nating kababayan na from student visa. Muntik na po ako mapauwi pinas dahil nahirapan po akong makakuha ng mag sponsor na employer. Buti na lang po talaga nakuha ko husband ko na makapunta dito at sya nakakuha ng employer na willing to support him at the same time hindi nahirapan sa immigration.. Mostly, mga employer mas gusto nila may NZ experience, except na lang talaga po kung highly skilled and more than 3 years ang experience. Hindi pa dyan natatapos, kahit matanggap ka ng employer, iaassess pa ng immigration ang application mo, marami na akong naririning at mga kakilala na kahit tanggap ng employer pero sa immigration decline sila. This is by no means of discouraging you, kung may ibang chance or pathway except for student visa mas makakabuti po sa inyo. Kung kulang kayo ng experience, dagdagan nyo pa po sa pinas or kung saan man outside NZ kayu nag wowork. Kung IELTs, take lang ng take. Wag na po student visa kasi po after nyo mag study after a year, kahit mabigyan po kayu ng Work visa, hindi nyo na po pwedeng makuha ang spouse nyo as dependent and even kids, pwede nyo na lang po sila ma sponsor as visitor visa na lang, ganyan na po ang alam ko ang mangyayari after ng changes by August. I am just very concern and pag naiisip ko mga kakilala ko na wala ng choice kundi umuwi na lang after lahat ng nagastos nila, nakakapang hinayang po talaga.. Basta po ask for the Lords guidance and help kasi sa student pathway po talaga mas malaki ang mga risk. Godbless us all po |
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Post by zia on Feb 26, 2015 4:52:36 GMT 12
kigs totoo, nakakatakot kung iisipin yung student path, very risky and super costly. pero tignan mo na lang sha as a worthwhile investment towards your future. nakakapag-invest nga tayo sa pagbili ng bahay, sasakyan at iba pang investments... even moreso dapat mag-invest para sa mas magandang kinabukasan natin. syempre depende pa rin sa iyo ang success mo pero at least you tried and took a chance. i suggest i-explore mo muna maigi ang SMC path, halos karamihan ng tumatahak ng nag-student path dito, yung hindi umabot sa 140 mark or yung gustong mapabilis ang pagpunta sa NZ. mas malaking kamurahan kapag nag-SMC ka at halos shortcut to residency na yun. kung naka-set ka naman na talaga sa student path, very straightforward naman ang application process, malaking halaga din yung 40K na matitipid mo kung ikaw mismo maglakad. madali lang naman kausap ang mga schools at ikaw din naman ang magga-gather ng docs mo. marami dito na sila mismo lang ang naglakad ng papeles kse madali lang naman gawin basta may sapat na research kang ginawa about procedures at well-informed ka. ako derecho lang, etong forum lang at pagbabasa sa INZ website halos ang naging guide ko sa application process. kung gusto mo naman talagang dumaan sa agent, maraming education agents na libre lang ang services kse school ang magbayad sa kanila. basa basa ka lang sa ibang student threads and makukuha mo dun yung names ng mga agencies na yun. hope this helps. God bless!
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Post by Pa0pa0 on Feb 26, 2015 6:35:13 GMT 12
@zia I agree with you, the SMC was the path I took in applying for residency here and luckily (with so much prayers of course) I succeeded. Also to add, I did not hire any consultant for the processing, it was wife who took care of everything hehe, sayang din kasi fees so If may time ka naman to do it yourself why not di ba?
Basta before you choose, you weigh your options first, consider the pros and cons and then decide which path will you take? Always remember din to put God first in anything you do, coz He will show you the way, cheers!
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Feb 26, 2015 11:08:28 GMT 12
Hi guys! I moved your discussion here para madaling mabasa ng iba. Thank you for your input.
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Post by Ano ni Moose on Feb 26, 2015 12:05:08 GMT 12
Thanks for creating this thread, I think this is an important topic lalo na padami ng padami ang sumusubok sa student pathway para makapasok sa NZ. We want our members to have a balanced view of everything, so if you have something to share na challenges or anything that you think other aspiring student may have to deal with, do share, kung may suggestions kayo to address it, mas maganda.  Keep it coming! Ano ni Moose |
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Post by kigs on Mar 1, 2015 2:32:50 GMT 12
Thank you so much zia@mariz22 for your encouragement and for your advice. Sensya na, di pala na post ang reply ko. Napaka positive ng spirit mo.
Short ang points ko sa SMC kaya student path ang recommended ng agency ko. You are right, I have read sa ibang thread that there are agencies who offer their services for FREE like yung FORTRUST. Anyway, they are getting commission sa school once nag enroll na ang client nila.
@francispaoloezekiel, congrats at thanks din po sa input.
I think important factor din if the school has job assistance program. Im sure everyone is hoping na maging mataas ang success rate ng kumukuha ng student path. Kasi if we invested a lot in our studies, we are expecting na makakuha po tayo ng maayos na trabaho sa NZ. Hope others will also share their thoughts and experience lalo na for those members who completed their studies. I understand that it is quite difficult to post negative comments/experience pero sobrang appreciated po naming yung transparency ng ibang members. I am grateful that some people are brave enough to share their stories in this forum. Madaming lessons kaming napupulot.
Maraming salamat din po sa admin at mga moderator who are patiently answering our queries and sharing their precious time sa pagbabasa at pagsagot ng endless questions po namin. Godbless you!!!
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Post by Sniff on Mar 1, 2015 11:46:20 GMT 12
This is just my personal input regarding the increase of student entry here in NZ. I think majority of them are from an immigrant consultant clients. So best and fastest way is Student entry for a consulatant eto una nila i offer kasi madali mag ayos ng papel kesa WHV SFV SMC. Then add pa yun commission nila from schools na ni referan nila ng student.
I have already met several people who went home after studying and not finding a job or finding one pero not suitable sa skills na and eventually went home. The worst case of being a student kasi is you risk a lot money compare to SMC.
Totally agree weigh your options if you are still young and newly grad siguro its worth the risk pero if youre the head of a family would you risk of being a student while you a have wife and children needing your help back home? for me its not worth the risk.
In a positive note may mga nag succeed naman but not the recent people iv met.
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Mar 2, 2015 15:27:26 GMT 12
Ako marami nang successful students na na-meet (level 7).  Kaya wag kayo paghinaan ng loob. Madaling option talaga ang student visa kapag kapos sa points for SMC. If you really want to pursue this path I suggest you do the following:
- Choose the best school and program where you can really learn the skills you can use for your job hunting or when you get employed. Study their course program or syllabus. If you can afford a proper university instead of PTE, go for it.
- Equip yourself with all the knowledge you need before paying your tuition fee. Don't just read the threads in our Student section but New Zealand Lifestyle as well.
- Study what your next options are after you finish your studies. What the next visa to apply for, how the job market is, where to settle, risks, etc.
- Be open to the possibility of going back home (I met 3 people who took level 5 and went home).
In addition to what Sniff said, the reason why they offer student visas is because these agencies do not need a licensed immigration adviser for this. Quick and easy on their part, not too easy for the students.
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Post by Nathalie on Mar 3, 2015 13:38:45 GMT 12
Hi, sabi din kasi ng iba yung credentials/ experiences natin dito sa Pinas is hindi din naman ino-honor sa ibang bansa like Canada so para makakuha ka talaga ng career, need mo pa din mag magaral sa bansa nila. Is this true for NZ? I'm an IE graduate kasi and yung experience ko is more on the administrative side (not considered skilled) do I really need to study in NZ to get a white collar job? Paurong sulong kasi ako about studying sa NZ kasi what if hindi naman ako magsuceed and masayang lang yung malaking pera na pinautang sa akin but it's out of the question. What I really need to know is do I really need to study (considering I'm not skilled) for me to be able to increase my chance to be employed in a white collar job?
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Mar 4, 2015 10:28:36 GMT 12
Hi Nathalie! Kung hindi ka skilled, according to you, hindi ka talaga magq-qualify sa Skilled Migrant Category so you have to look for other options of going to NZ. Not sure if the same applies to other countries. Other options are Student Visa, Working Holiday or Silver Fern. I think it's not about "do I need to study to be employed" but "what does it take to migrate" kaya most of our members opt for Student Visa when they don't have enough points for SMC. |
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Post by kattierivera on Mar 15, 2015 22:54:21 GMT 12
Maganda sana ang student kaso its so expensive, you have to pay full tuition pala T~T kung SMC naman kulang ang points ko and need ko pa ng NZQA Assessment since ang course ko is Bachelor of Arts Major in English (although ayako naman magturo -_-) at ang mahal pa magpa-assess waaaah  |
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Post by AnnaK on Mar 18, 2015 15:21:30 GMT 12
Ako marami nang successful students na na-meet (level 7). Kaya wag kayo paghinaan ng loob. Madaling option talaga ang student visa kapag kapos sa points for SMC. If you really want to pursue this path I suggest you do the following:
- Choose the best school and program where you can really learn the skills you can use for your job hunting or when you get employed. Study their course program or syllabus. If you can afford a proper university instead of PTE, go for it.
- Equip yourself with all the knowledge you need before paying your tuition fee. Don't just read the threads in our Student section but New Zealand Lifestyle as well.
- Study what your next options are after you finish your studies. What the next visa to apply for, how the job market is, where to settle, risks, etc.
- Be open to the possibility of going back home (I met 3 people who took level 5 and went home).
In addition to what Sniff said, the reason why they offer student visas is because these agencies do not need a licensed immigration adviser for this. Quick and easy on their part, not too easy for the students.
Nakakabuhay ng loob ito sis aBiSh @admin. Sana may mag share din dito ang mga naging successful na nagdaan sa Student path. Ma-share sana nila ang mga paghahanda, diskarte, realidad at mga tips on how to survive, succeed as a student and land a secured job para narin magkaroon ng malinaw na picture ang mga members na nagbabalak mag student visa. ----- Update: May thread pala ng success stories ng mga nag student path. Nakita ko na. Hehe. sana mas madami pa mag share ng stories nila. |
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Apr 13, 2015 13:10:59 GMT 12
Quoting our very helpful members sa kabilang thread. KarLanGPlease read this objectively. I don't know how you'll react but I'm only meaning to share the reality here based on my experience. On Question 1: What is a Diploma in Business level 7? It sounds too generic and I might put you in as administrator if you're a fresh grad looking for work. The major industries here in NZ (in terms of work opportunities) are in: Agriculture (farming and dairy), Construction/ Manufacturing (building and trade), Education (pre-school or early childhood development) and IT. At least that's according to a fellow migrant na galing naman ng South Africa. I suggest that you review the course sheet and do more research on the actual job titles that you can start applying for with the skillset that the course brings. Based on those job titles, also check if they would fall under the skilled jobs. Also, do they offer internships or apprenticeships? On Question 2: It would be ideal to choose a course that is already in line with your current work experience para magkaroon ng weight yung job experience niyo once you start looking for work. Find a course that complements your background and that will lead you to skilled employment. On Question 3: IT programming is usually high in demand (yan kasi ang mundo ko so yan lang din ang alam ko). And there are always opportunities for fresh graduates. You just need to be realistic kasi it's not for everyone. Yung agency na kinausap niyo, licensed immigration adviser ba yan? You can check out the list of licensed immigration advisers sa NZ immigration website. Kasi, it would be good to be cautious kasi I assume that you're being advised to come here under student visa with the promise na it's an easy pathway to residency. It's not always the case kasi. Napansin ko lang na it's a very expensive path with no guarantees. Besides, after graduating here, hindi ka ata pwede mag work dito right away. You'll need to wait for a year or two before you can go back to find work here. And of course when you go back, you need to secure a work visa naman or job search visa. But I could be wrong as things always change so best to research the student visa pathway thoroughly. Hope this helps. Hi guys! I just wanna share something especially for those na nag paplan na mag aral dito. Pag isipang mabuti bago gumawa ng malaki at magastos na desisyon. Here's what happened, yung friend ko na taga Ilocos, may nakilala sya na nasa late 30's to early 40's na babae na taga Ilocos din and same course sila. Our school offers free accommodation for 2weeks. Eh since super dami ng students for February intake, nag kakaubusan na ng flat within the city. So si ate na taga Ilocos nalagay sya sa backpackers inn. Araw araw syang umiiyak kasi Naculture shock sya since yung mga kasama nya ay mga brazilian at madumi at makalat yung mga gamit nila. So she decided na bumalik nalang ng pilipinas. Nakakalungkot lang kasi yung perang pinang gastos niya sa pag punta dito at sa tuition ay hindi sakanya kundi sa kapatid nya. Narefund man yung tuition nya sa school pero hindi lahat nabalik sakanya. Kaya nagkagulo tuloy silang mag kapatid. Ang sad lang. Kaya sana yung mga nag paplanong pumunta dito lalo na yung mga first time na lalabas ng bansa, pag isipang mabuti kasi mahirap umatras pag nandito na. Lakasan niyo lang yung loob nyo saka konting tiis lang. Mahirap talaga sa umpisa pero syempre kung susuko kayo, mababalewala yung mga pinag hirapan nyo. At pinaka importante, wag kalimutang magdasal. |
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Post by divhon on Apr 24, 2015 7:38:54 GMT 12
Nakaka offend naman para saken ung backpacker incident hehehe. joke lang. Me and few fellow filipinos fell inlove in the backpacker system, cguro swerte na rin sa place and ung room mate na pinoy ko eh matagal na ring byahero tulad ko and used to this system. I now work in the backpacker where I live as my 2nd job. Well kung dumi at kalat lang eh hindi niya kaya then she has really no place in a foreign land. I've been to other filipino flats ung iba hindi rin nman ganun kalinis mas nagkakabwisitan pa nga sila pag may mga tamad. I've experienced to live long enough in the side of train tracks and under our floor is the stinky and filthy sewage (no joke on this), naranasan ko actually magutom dahil pera ko ay pamasahe lang. I'm sure she was not mentally ready (I hope soon she will be) and she just enjoyed all the benefits of living with her family
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Apr 24, 2015 14:37:07 GMT 12
Sa totoo lang divhon tama ka. Kung ang basehan lang ay dahil madumi at makalat yung nakasama niya sa room, mababaw na reason yun para umuwi at i-give up yung lahat ng sacrifices nila. Pero siguro may iba pang reasons kaya siya umuwi that we don't know of. |
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Post by ModM on Apr 25, 2015 4:10:23 GMT 12
aBiSh @admin not trying to stereotype but if those brazilians behaved the same as what we have in our building, a probinsiyana and conservative woman would probably get a major culture shock nga. Operative words - skinny dipping, running naked at the courtyard, alcohol, noise control... tsk tsk. Sad lang kasi she probably has a bad image of NZ now dahil sa experience niya. Sadder pa if they didn't get back all the tuition and fees they paid. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by ModM on Apr 25, 2015 4:21:21 GMT 12
Dapat pala matrain ko mga anak ko para di mashock.
Buti na lang natrain ako sa backpacking lifestyle ng maaga. My family used to travel sa Pinas na first destination lang may plan then yung next place and how to get there is play by ear lang. Nakatulog na ako sa mga bus terminals at pier, barko na crappy ang higaan, nakatayo sa bus, salitan lang upo at tayo on an almost 2 days trip, makilagak ng bags sa mga bank branches etc. Mahilig kasi parents ko magbyahe until maubos ang budget saka uuwi. Imagine the time na wala pang atms noon or limited pa. Nagbackpacking stay na rin ako sa Khao Sarn (Bangkok) and Pham Ngu Lao (Ho Chi Minh) may ilang beses na nung bata bata pa ako. Now na matanda na wala na ako patience yata sa ganun.
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Post by divhon on Apr 25, 2015 15:20:33 GMT 12
Saan ba yang maraming nag nanaked swimming at nag nananaked running brazilians na yan? Always welcome dito sa backpackers namin yan.
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Post by jomzway on Apr 26, 2015 11:51:36 GMT 12
I was planning p nmn next year as student path.. n its my first time to go out the country and explore. Is it true u cud get a part time job while studying? And after u will have a 1 year working permit dw? Im a nurse hr. N my course if ever will b in d line of health. U cud work dw after as a care giver n ect. Tnx
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Apr 28, 2015 11:28:02 GMT 12
Wahahahahha divhon baliw ka hahahah.. Nominated ka na for comedian award next year hahah |
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Apr 28, 2015 11:30:11 GMT 12
Hi jomzway! Mukhang marami ka pang dapat basahin. Maganda mag-umpisa ka na magbasa kaagad para mahanap mo na yung mga kasagutan sa tanong mo. Nandito sila lahat. Sundan mo lang mga links. Student visa as entry |
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Post by kigs on May 3, 2015 22:18:13 GMT 12
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Post by mpz on May 4, 2015 9:10:34 GMT 12
kigs it was worse back around 2009 with the global economic crisis and all. Nowadays its a bit better. Still, you can never really be sure of the future. All you can do is try.
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Post by aBiSh @admin on May 4, 2015 13:50:53 GMT 12
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Post by kigs on May 6, 2015 4:22:41 GMT 12
Thank you so much for your valuable inputs ms abish aBiSh @admin and mpz. Medyo scary kasi yung mga info na nasa website lalo na ung case ng student visa. |
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Post by mlm on Jul 10, 2015 2:17:23 GMT 12
I was thinking of getting a student visa since I don't have enough points for SMC. The consultant advised me to take a business level 7 course. Sounds good. Sabihin natin nag fast forward ako after one year. Tapos na ako sa business course and had the necessary part time job experience. Di pa rin abot 120 pts un nakukuha ko. So what I'll have to do is every year renew ng renew ng work permit at wala naman sa shortage list and business course. Tama po ba?
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Post by eischied21 on Jul 10, 2015 3:40:53 GMT 12
mlm, why don't you choose a course na nasa LTSSL na lang para more chance na makapag-apply as PR after getting a job offer na related sa course mo. Basta may job offer, 100 points lang ang need to be selected sa EOI.
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Post by mlm on Jul 10, 2015 4:14:52 GMT 12
mlm, why don't you choose a course na nasa LTSSL na lang para more chance na makapag-apply as PR after getting a job offer na related sa course mo. Basta may job offer, 100 points lang ang need to be selected sa EOI. Hindi po ako pwede kumuha ng course sa LTSSL masyado malayo un course natapos ko dito sa Pinas. Un pinipili daw sa EOI mga nasa 130 above. |
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Post by bagsik on Jul 10, 2015 17:30:09 GMT 12
mlm, why don't you choose a course na nasa LTSSL na lang para more chance na makapag-apply as PR after getting a job offer na related sa course mo. Basta may job offer, 100 points lang ang need to be selected sa EOI. To be honest a guarantee ito kapag ikaw ay wala pang work experience. Risk but if you take it, that's one big leap. |
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Post by eischied21 on Jul 11, 2015 5:04:28 GMT 12
Yes hindi guarantee kasi how will you gain at least 100 points kun wala ka rin skilled work exp. Tapos yun job offer hindi basta basta job offer. Dapat related sa skills and qualification.
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sa mga nagbabalak po subukan ang student visa, todo research po kayo and back read dito sa forum. most of what i know now galing dito. taking the student path is very costly and no guarantees if you'll get part-time job. i've been in welly for a month now and only got one interview yet hopeful na makakuha ng work soon. other than the tuition fee, plane ticket, miscellaneous expenses when i arrived i set aside funds for at least 6 months without work. good thing di ako na fts pero an applicant should always expect na meron fts. i suggest you do your own visa application lalo na kung medyo hirap sa budget. i worked on my visa application on my own and honestly, easy money ang nakukuha ng agency sa mga tinutulungan nila. one more thing, before leaving pinas make sure na dala nyo drivers licence nyo na card na wag yung papel. andami ko sana pwede pasukan na work kaso yung licence ko papel dahil sa bulok na lto naubusan cards bago ako umalis. haha.
Kaya wag kayo paghinaan ng loob.
