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Post by rishie on Jul 11, 2015 21:06:53 GMT 12
Hello po. Ako din po i am planning to take business course, I have 5 years of exp. palang po sa accounting.. Management accounting grad po ako dito sa pinas.. Nakapag basa2 na po ako sa ibang thread, paranag konti lng ung kumukuha ng business course kaya parang nag aalangan na po ako ituloy mg apply ng student visa..
Yung experience ko po ba at magging course sa NZ, maliit po ba ang chance ko makakuha ng work? nalilito po ako dun sa list ng LTSSL kng pasok dun ung work experience ko, kc ung nasa list po is finance / business.. Salamat po..
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Post by bagsik on Jul 13, 2015 22:55:40 GMT 12
Maliit ang chance ng mga business/finance dito kasi ang mga locals ay pwede mag work that kind of job.
IT, civil architecture, dairy farm - malaki chance , to be honest.
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Post by rishie on Jul 14, 2015 13:27:37 GMT 12
Thank you bagsik. Nakaka lungkot kung maliit ang chance ng career ko sa NZ.. Pero minsan kelangan sumugal sa buhay. My 60% pa nman natitira sa akin para pag isipan kng itutuloy ko pa dn mg apply ng student visa. Sana ung 60% eh tumaas pa hehe.. Sana my same case dn ako dito sa PK para mag sabay kmi mg apply hehe.. |
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Post by bagsik on Jul 14, 2015 17:24:45 GMT 12
rishieIt will be tough though -- I mean you need good planning at lakas ng loob. But this is not to discourage you, I am just illuminating you the real world here so you can prepare.
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Post by rishie on Jul 14, 2015 17:58:25 GMT 12
bagsik that's why I am thankful I found this site para ma enlighten ako sa mga plans namin ng hubby ko kng para sa akin ba ang student visa. Malakas ang loob ko kc gusto ko tlga gumawa ng way para magsama na kmi, if given the chance sa ibang bansa sana gusto nmin mg start ng family. Thank you bagsik  ?
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Post by bagsik on Jul 14, 2015 22:37:52 GMT 12
rishieGreat to hear that..There is a saying "If there is a will, there is a way"..Review mo na lang ang Long Term Skills List kung ano ang pwedeng course.
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Post by rishie on Jul 14, 2015 23:35:59 GMT 12
bagsik thank you ha sa walang sawang pg reply... Hehe Plan ko i take nlng ung diploma in Purchasing and supply, ung hubby ko line cook sya ngaun, mag upgrade nlng muna sya dito sa pinas para mgng chef kc nasa ltssl namn para pag na tapos ko na un course ko pwed ko nmn na sya kunin db? Para sabay na kami mg hanap ng work.
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Post by ModM on Jul 15, 2015 7:46:42 GMT 12
rishie si hubby ba hindi pwede siya ang magstudent visa? May nakilala ako na pinay dito. Wala nga siya experience sa kitchen kasi housewife siya and business owner (bakery) pero gusto niya talaga madala family niya. After niya natapos course niya nadala niya na dito mga anak niya.
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Post by rishie on Jul 15, 2015 13:23:56 GMT 12
ModM takot kc sya mag aral sa ibang bansa, HRM grad po sya at currently onboard sa isang cargo ship as line cook. Kaya ako nlng ang gusto nya mg student visa para na din ma tustusan nya ako habang ng babarko sya and pag sinwerte makukuha ko na sya,. My mga national certificate nman po sya, nkita ko sa LTSSL isa po un sa qualifications para sa pggng chef sa NZ. Actually gusto ko dn po sana ang cooking kc simula nung na asawa ko sya na in love na ako sa pag luluto at gusto ko dn matuto kasi dream namin magka resto. What if po kaya ganung course nlng kunin ko? Kaya lng ang layo nman sa course at experience ko.. hehe
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Post by bagsik on Jul 16, 2015 11:22:46 GMT 12
bagsik thank you ha sa walang sawang pg reply... Hehe Plan ko i take nlng ung diploma in Purchasing and supply, ung hubby ko line cook sya ngaun, mag upgrade nlng muna sya dito sa pinas para mgng chef kc nasa ltssl namn para pag na tapos ko na un course ko pwed ko nmn na sya kunin db? Para sabay na kami mg hanap ng work. Yes yung chef talgang in demand dito -- kakilala ko na chef pinag aagawan ng 2 prestigious restaurants dito ...at dahil kulang sila talaga ng tao, he is working overtime (of course may bayad) |
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Post by oel on Jul 16, 2015 11:53:49 GMT 12
Hello po sa inyo lahat! im planning to apply for student visa...im a BS Computer Science graduate. Nag punta po ako sa consulatant agency..they told me na i can enroll in a school and bring my family with me. But i Have to enroll in a student level 8 level. Sa totoo lang po i dont idea kung ano ung level 8..sa mahal po ng babayaran ko kinakabahan po ako na buong savings namin e maubos a wala at di makapasa..what happen po ba if i failed?Madali lang po ba?Is there any chance that my partner could have a permenent job and apply for recidency visa?salamat po sa comment nio need ko talga po ng advice from someone who really have knowledge and experience living there ..TY in advance
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Post by rishie on Jul 16, 2015 13:50:42 GMT 12
Kng mg upgrade mn sya as chef kulang nman mgging experience nya, kasi sa ltssl min. of 5 years experience. He has 6yrs of exp. pero as line cook. Pero kahit papano lumalakas pa rin loob ko ? thank you bagsik |
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Post by mlm on Jul 16, 2015 14:27:11 GMT 12
For me friend, leap of faith po. Ako personally yan din ang worry ko sa laki ng gastusin maski ano pong level kase isang bagsakan ang bayaran sa NZ na tuition. Sana may magpost sang mga schools madali lang ang mode of teaching.
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Post by ModM on Jul 16, 2015 19:43:14 GMT 12
rishie check niyo yung points if may job offer siya kung sakali (50 points) aabot pa ng at least 100 points. Remember that kapag may job offer and in NZ na hindi need 140 points. Pasok na kahit 100points. Tsaka need lang na 45K annually ang salary na minimum. At least yan ang alam ko. Tingnan niyo yung eoi selection criteria. May kilala akong teppanyaki chef dito. OFW siya dati pa. He arrived Nov 2013 on work visa. Sumunod wife ng august 2013 and naglodge sila ng eoi august din. By Jan 2014 SMC na sila. And nakasunod na mga anak rin in 2014. Yung isang kwento ko nga na chef course inaral dito. She arrived 2011. By 2012 nakajob search visa/work visa siya napunta mga anak niya dito nov 2012. Hanggang ngayon andito pa rin naman siya and mga anak niya. Wala nga siya experience sa pagiging cook/chef man lang before coming here. Di ko lang alam if work visa pa rin siya or resident na.
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Post by ModM on Jul 16, 2015 19:45:06 GMT 12
What I am driving at is yes you should not plunge and take risks agad agad pero know that you will never win if you don't play.
May mga umuuwing luhaan pero may mga nagiging resident din.
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Post by rishie on Jul 16, 2015 23:35:29 GMT 12
ModM sis na check ko ung magiging points ko and ni husband, more than 100points kung sakali ang pwedng ma claim ni husband. Clear ko lng po, ung work visa po ba na nabanggit mo is after ko ma complete ung course ko at mkuha ko na sya for him to get work visa? Ako kasi talaga ang magiging way para makapunta sya sa NZ, at un nga need ko pa dn ang student visa para at least dalawa kami ang makahanap ng work. Wla kc sa list ang career ko kaya kahit papano sana makakatulong na makakuha ako ng qualifications from NZ through studying.. Sorry ha madaming tanung
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Post by ModM on Jul 16, 2015 23:58:27 GMT 12
rishie if your husband is here na on work visa because of you, pwede naman magshift na siya naman maging principal sa residency application ninyo kung he has the better job offer and better points tsaka kung susuportahan siya ng company. Hindi naman strict na ikaw lagi ang principal. May nameet din pala akong chef/resto owner dito na Pinoy. Dati daw may culinary school sa Pinas kung saan siya nag-aral na may tie-up sa NZ. Kaya siya nakapunta dito - sa Queenstown siya dati tapos nagmove na ng Auckland. Nakalimutan ko na kung aling school sa Pinas yun. Tsaka nabanggit niya na wala na yung program na yun. Research lang ng research. Oo sabi nga sa thread na ito why think twice? Actually think more than twice nga dapat. Many times. Think about plan A. Plan B. Plan C. May 26 letters ang alphabet naman di ba? Explore all options. Hanapan ng mali at butas tapos hanapan ng solusyon. In the end plantsadong plano na ang meron kayo.
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Post by rishie on Jul 17, 2015 0:39:25 GMT 12
ModM maraming salamat tlaga sa pag tyaga sagutin ang mga tanung at kakulitan ko ? Feb 2016 pa naman ang target ko para mg apply ng student visa kaya eto research pa ako ng research kung anu ang mga dapat gawin, kumukuha ng lakas ng loob at syempre accepting the negative thoughts na din para mas lalong ma challenge ?
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Post by colytz on Jul 19, 2015 4:11:03 GMT 12
Hi guys,am just new here and im grateful to find this forum..me and my friends are set to be on student visa and will be coming to christchurch on september studying diploma in health management level 7..i just want to ask
1. if there are opportunities for part time job..the 3 of us are nurses with 6,7 and 5 years experience respectively here in phil..
2.how long does it take to apply a part time job in christchurch preferrably health services related?.
3.after we finished our studies we opt to proceed with cap,i still have to take oet there and eventually land a job as nzrn what are the process?..how long will it take and is it practical to take the oet there or take ielts here in phil prior to going there?..
I really hope to hear from you guys to help us 3..
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Post by jemifloo on Jul 19, 2015 9:30:39 GMT 12
Hi colytzIf you don't mind me asking, why didn't you go for the CAP course directly instead of going through the student path? You could have saved time and money if you have the intention of becoming a RN here anyway. Wala rin kase bearing yung diploma course in obtaining your RN registration here.  |
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Post by colytz on Jul 19, 2015 13:45:30 GMT 12
Hi jemifloo
The adviser told us that it would be better to take the student visa first it will add points daw po sa application in the future and experience wise..were considering the cap program before but it will take 10 months or more for us to be approved..in your view,is it more practical to take the cap program than pursue the student path?..i would really appreciate ur insights..
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Post by allune on Jul 19, 2015 14:33:40 GMT 12
colytz you would have to take the CAP anyway. Do you mean you're not considering taking it anymore? Then you can't work as a nurse. Thing is..... With your experience I don't think it would have been very hard for you to find work there---there's always a need for experienced nurses, you just need to find the hospital that will hire you. There is no way you can work as a nurse without being registered and if you are a nurse with overseas qualifications the Nursing Council will advise you to take the CAP. This is the only (right) path for overseas nurses (without OZ registration anyway) to be an NZRN. The 10 months you would've waited for the Nursing Council assessment for the CAP could've been more work experience under your belt as an RN (here in the Philippines or wherever). 'Yun lang, sayang.
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Post by jemifloo on Jul 19, 2015 14:51:37 GMT 12
The only way to practice nursing here is to undergo the CAP or enroll to the BSN programme. The healthcare management diploma course WILL NOT and CAN NOT be used to obtain registration to the Nursing Council. NCNZ will not recognise this course. The minimum requirement for applying to the nursing council are: at least 2 years nursing experience, BSN, and IELTS of 7 on each band. Once you have these, you can apply to the nursing council and they will send you a decision letter if they will let you proceed to the CAP course
CAP course is only 6-8 weeks on the average. . health care management diploma course is 1 year.
With the student visa, although it will allow you to work 20hrs/week, you can not work as a nurse! So if you want to work in the health sector, you might just end up working as a health care assistant/ care giver, support worker. According sa friend Ko who is a clinical manager in one of the nursing home here in Auckland, nirerestrict na sya na-mag hire ng student part timers as HCAs kase priority ang mga citizens and residents. You will also be only earning the minimum wage for that kind of work.
May mga success stories naman din for PH nurses who went through the student visa path and became NZRN eventually, I know some of them. cguro after 1 1/2 years - 2 years after they came here as students dun lang sila naka-pag CAP or na- RN. Nag-ipon pa kase or kelangan pa nila mag IELTS. But come to think of it kase, you spent all those money and time for a course that WILL NOT lead to your registration as a nurse.
my point is, if your intention is to become a nurse, work on your registration and skip unnecessary steps. The decision is up to you guys. I just want you to be informed. You might want to visit the Nursing thread. May mga discussions din dun. All the best.
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Post by ModM on Jul 19, 2015 18:57:30 GMT 12
colytz eto yung Nursing Thread na mention ni jemifloo. Wala po ako alam masyado about Nursing profession and the pathway na tinahak nila para makarating sa NZ and eventually maging resident. Ang masasabi ko lang po ay 1. Make sure that the Immigration Adviser na sinasabi niyo where you are consulting are legal advisers - registered talaga as immigration advisers ng Immigration Advisers Authority ng NZ. Magkaiba po ang Immigration Advisers sa Education Agents. Yung mga education agents po ay mga agencies or offices na nagpopromote ng pag-aaral dito sa NZ. They will help find students from the Philippines. They either receive fees from the students they are assisting or they get commission from the school, or both. 2. Lahat po ng sinishare dito sa forum ay hindi immigration advise but are opinions of members based on their own experience or experience of people they know personally. 3. Research research research para hindi masayang ang pera na pinaghirapan. If meron mas direct na path, wag na doon sa mahaba at mas magastos. Magbasa, magtanong, magbasa ulit, magtanong etc. Do not only think twice, think many times. Goodluck!
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Post by Sniff on Jul 20, 2015 9:29:14 GMT 12
I saw this on a facebook group and we are not affilated in this group just sharing . Since its free naman you can try to register (SG/PH) Form LinK: Here |
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Post by colytz on Jul 20, 2015 12:53:28 GMT 12
Thank you guys for all your inputs.. jemifloo, moodM and sniff..
Im thinking and reflecting so many times for this journey..3 kasi kami in this journey..and we want to know things and how its like to be living and working there from the point of view of fellow pinoys..
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Post by koru_ph on Aug 26, 2015 20:53:51 GMT 12
Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum and thought it'd be good to put in my 2 cents because I'm ex-INZ. But in the spirit of transparency, you probably should know that I am currently a student agent.
Between July 2014 and June 2015, halos 88% ng mga Pinoy na binigyan ng INZ Manila ng student visas sa PTE nag-aaral. Mas mura talaga kasi ang PTEs kaya din sila pinupush ng maraming agent. Madalas i-offer ang business kasi sobrang broad niya. Kahit anong education or work background pwede mo i-link kaya minsan mas madali ikuha ng student visa yung client. Yung trade off nun, hindi ganun ka ganda yung employment outcomes.
Nung mga 2012, pinag-aralan namin yung post-study outcomes ng mga nag-student visa. Business and management yung di ganun kaganda (pero of course meron pa rin naman nakakuha ng work at naging resident). Yung IT and cookery yung maganda ang naging progression kasi mabilis ang transition to residence at mataas ang success rate.
Minsan, hindi best option ang magstudent visa. Para sa ibang tao, mas ok na magSMC agad or mag-work visa muna. Minsan naman, ok din mag-aral muna kahit kaya mo nang makakuha ng job offer. Depende kasi yan sa gusto mo ma-achieve - residence agad, upskilling, open work visa, etc.
Tama rin na di naman necessary na mag-agent para sa student visa pero may value din naman ang agents in general. For example, na-iinfluence ng agents ang mga education providers sa pagdevelop ng courses na fit sa mga clients nila. Yun yung isang reason kung bakit lately dumadami ang mga postgraduate diplomas na inooffer sa mga Pinoy at kung bakit merong mga mas specialised healthcare courses ngayon.
Dapat lang talaga maging mapanuri sa mga agent. Malaking investment yung mag-aral abroad. Personally, medyo cautious ako sa 100% free na agent kasi ibig sabihin nun na lahat ng kinikita nila galing sa commissions. So, kung yung situation mo medyo out of the ordinary or mas specific ang kailangan mo, wala silang incentive na maghanap ng course na labas sa usual network nila ng schools.
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Post by koru_ph on Aug 26, 2015 21:03:31 GMT 12
Hi jemifloo The adviser told us that it would be better to take the student visa first it will add points daw po sa application in the future and experience wise..were considering the cap program before but it will take 10 months or more for us to be approved..in your view,is it more practical to take the cap program than pursue the student path?..i would really appreciate ur insights.. - meron nang courses that include the CAP. You'll get the benefit of the extra points and a pathway to registration. Maybe ask your adviser about this or at least shop around before you decide. |
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Post by ModM on Aug 27, 2015 0:43:41 GMT 12
koru_ph hello, paintroduce naman po ng sarili niyo sa introductions thread Firstly, thank you, for being honest and transparent about your work as an education agent, and being generous with your knowledge and pov. Anyway, I am curious lang po. Are you an agent based in PH or in NZ? I am happy to hear that you have the opportunity to influence the course planning. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by koru_ph on Aug 27, 2015 12:20:52 GMT 12
Hi ModM, introduction posted. I'm based in Pasay |
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