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Post by move2nz on Feb 26, 2014 20:29:41 GMT 12
Just wanted to share.
Our residence visa was granted here in NZ and we have been living here for more than a year. Fom what I’ve read on the CFO website, there was no need for us to attend the PDOS in the CFO office in Manila, and we can just register directly with the CFO-NAIA Desk Office. However, I’ve also read somewhere that sometimes, there is no one manning the CFO-NAIA desk. So to make sure we don’t encounter any problems upon departure, I called the CFO-NAIA Desk Office to confirm their procedure. The person I spoke with said that there is no need for me to attend the PDOS, and that I can just register with either the CFO-NAIA Desk Office OR at the CFO office in Quirino, and they will attach the CFO sticker on our passports.
I went to CFO Manila to do exactly that, but was told that I still had to attend PDOS. When I informed them of what their NAIA Desk Office told me, and what was stated on their website, I was told that we can only be exempt from attending PDOS if we have been living in our destination country for a minimum of 2 years (we’ve been in NZ for a little more than a year). I asked why this information was not available online, to which the supervisor replied “hindi po namin talaga nilalagay.” Toinks! To be fair, pleasant naman yung transaction ko with them, but hindi nila na-explain yung rationale ng 2 years minimum. So if I have been living here in NZ for 23 months, I still need to attend PDOS. To give PDOS credit also, the information is useful, but for anyone who has been living here, hindi na sya new information. Buti na lang I went on a Tuesday morning, para in case nga na I still need to attend PDOS, me schedule in the afternoon.
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Post by cyphrick on Feb 26, 2014 20:43:12 GMT 12
sa dami ng pwede isagot like "hindi lang po updated yung webite" ang napili nila is "hindi po namin talaga nilalagay"
Mag-iinit ang ulo ko sa ganyang klaseng sagot! Grrr...
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Post by move2nz on Feb 26, 2014 20:49:51 GMT 12
sa dami ng pwede isagot like "hindi lang po updated yung webite" ang napili nila is "hindi po namin talaga nilalagay" Mag-iinit ang ulo ko sa ganyang klaseng sagot! Grrr... Ay naku, kaloka talaga. |
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Post by markq on Feb 27, 2014 6:49:41 GMT 12
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Post by ModM on Feb 27, 2014 9:32:04 GMT 12
Sad to say ang CFO ang isa sa pinakanakakalokang ahensya sa gobyerno natin.
I found na medyo arogante mga tao dun kahit guards. Their information online ay incomplete. Hindi clear ano rationale nila of who gets a PDOS from them or who gets from POEA at parang pabago bago kaya siguro sa Visa letter ng INZ nakalagay lang check with CFO if you require a PDOS. And condescending dating ng ibang forms nila especially those for nakapag-asawa ng foreigners. Pinsan kasi namin nakapag-asawa ng ibang lahi and she needs to register sa CFO as part of her name change sa passport pati na anak nya. May question dun about where did you meet your spouse? The options were parang -online dating site, penpal (yes may ganun), social event (basta parang ganun), a friend etc but nothing like school or work. Kainis di ba?
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Feb 28, 2014 9:36:01 GMT 12
Alam mo sis move2nz sa sobrang confusing ng PDOS or not topic na yan I feel like kanya-kanyang trip lang ng gustong sabihin sila doon, depende sa mood. Minsan dapat meron, minsan wala. Tapos ngayon lang yang dapat 2 years living abroad. Bago na namang pauso yan. Nakakatuliro kasi magiging issue din namin yan kung sakali pag nagbakasyon kami sa Pinas. Living na kami rito for more than 2 years pero baka may bagong pausong policy na naman pag nagtanong ako. Haha.. |
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Post by move2nz on Feb 28, 2014 9:44:23 GMT 12
Hay naku oo sis aBiSh @admin! Kaya nag allot talaga ako ng 1 day for that on our first week back home. Actually, gugustuhin mo na i-pursue ang issue kasi nga ang labo nila but because we have limited time, hindi na magawa  |
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Feb 28, 2014 10:02:52 GMT 12
Korek sis. Ganyan lang nangyayari sa amin. Gusto man nating ipaglaban eh wala ng oras kaya sunod na lang kung anong gusto nila. Paghandaan ko ring mabuti yan in case magbakasyon nga kami.
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Post by Pa0pa0 on Mar 13, 2014 19:40:04 GMT 12
Good day po, Job Search Visa (JSV) ang visa ko sa NZ, need ba ako umattend ng PDOS? Samantalang TOURIST VISA lang ang visa ng wife ko po at baby, mag PDOS din ba sila?
Please advise po...Thanks...
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Post by denz on Mar 13, 2014 21:44:28 GMT 12
Good day po, Job Search Visa (JSV) ang visa ko sa NZ, need ba ako umattend ng PDOS? Samantalang TOURIST VISA lang ang visa ng wife ko po at baby, mag PDOS din ba sila? Please advise po...Thanks... Hello Pa0pa0 . this is my input. As a Filipino emigrant, or those who have been granted an immigrant-class visa, you are required by the Philippine Government by virtue of Article 19 of Presidential Decree No. 442, to register with the Commission on Filipinos Overseas before leaving the country to settle in a foreign land. CFOTourists, on the other hand, need not to undergo the orientation seminar . The required 'Pre-departure Orientation Seminar - opo - base po sa nabasa ko po, hindi na po nila need. In my experience (JSV din po ako), nag PDOS po ako at isa po yun sa mga requirements natin. Regarding sa wife at baby, hindi po sila nag PDOS, kasi hindi ko pa po kaya sila maisama sa NZ dahil walang budget, nyahahaha. Kidding aside, base sa nabasa ko, hindi po sila required mag PDOS dahil Visitor's Visa lang po ang hawak nila. Opinion ko lang po ito. Intay po natin ung sagot po nung iba na same po ng scenario nyo. HIH. GOD Bless po. |
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Post by ModM on Mar 14, 2014 7:31:06 GMT 12
denz saan ka nagPDOS, sa CFO or POEA? Yan yung pinagpasapasahan ang asawa ko eh. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by markq on Mar 14, 2014 8:14:28 GMT 12
denz saan ka nagPDOS, sa CFO or POEA? Yan yung pinagpasapasahan ang asawa ko eh. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards - Ito ang difference nila... PDOS > CFO > Migrants COE > POEA > Work Visas/Overseas Employments Sana nakatulong. :) |
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Post by denz on Mar 14, 2014 9:41:46 GMT 12
denz saan ka nagPDOS, sa CFO or POEA? Yan yung pinagpasapasahan ang asawa ko eh. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards - Ito ang difference nila... PDOS > CFO > Migrants COE > POEA > Work Visas/Overseas Employments Sana nakatulong.  Hi ModM . tumpak po si markq . sa CFO po ako nag PDOS. |
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Post by Pa0pa0 on Mar 14, 2014 11:32:40 GMT 12
Good day po, Job Search Visa (JSV) ang visa ko sa NZ, need ba ako umattend ng PDOS? Samantalang TOURIST VISA lang ang visa ng wife ko po at baby, mag PDOS din ba sila? Please advise po...Thanks... Hello Pa0pa0 . this is my input. As a Filipino emigrant, or those who have been granted an immigrant-class visa, you are required by the Philippine Government by virtue of Article 19 of Presidential Decree No. 442, to register with the Commission on Filipinos Overseas before leaving the country to settle in a foreign land. CFOTourists, on the other hand, need not to undergo the orientation seminar . The required 'Pre-departure Orientation Seminar - opo - base po sa nabasa ko po, hindi na po nila need. In my experience (JSV din po ako), nag PDOS po ako at isa po yun sa mga requirements natin. Regarding sa wife at baby, hindi po sila nag PDOS, kasi hindi ko pa po kaya sila maisama sa NZ dahil walang budget, nyahahaha. Kidding aside, base sa nabasa ko, hindi po sila required mag PDOS dahil Visitor's Visa lang po ang hawak nila. Opinion ko lang po ito. Intay po natin ung sagot po nung iba na same po ng scenario nyo. HIH. GOD Bless po. ok thanks po sa info, buti na lang nabasa ko po dito about PDOS, baka nga di ako paalisin sa NAIA hehe, mga buyawa pa naman andun joke lang po. |
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Post by denz on Mar 14, 2014 15:44:49 GMT 12
nyahaha, di ka po talaga paaalisin ng bansa pag wala ka po ng PDOS sticker.  |
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Post by ModM on Mar 14, 2014 19:49:25 GMT 12
ModM - Ito ang difference nila... PDOS > CFO > Migrants COE > POEA > Work Visas/Overseas Employments Sana nakatulong. Hi ModM . tumpak po si markq . sa CFO po ako nag PDOS. Thanks denz and markq. Dyan medyo nakakalito sa hubby ko kasi Work Visa sya pero hindi contract worker. Parang una sa CFO sya nagpunta ipinasa sya sa POEA tapos sa POEA yata ibinato siya sa CFO. Anyway on his 2nd visit sa CFO napilit nya so dun na sya nag PDOS. Nung ako na Work Visa din ako pero dependent of Work Visa holder. Hindi kami pinag PDOS pati kids namin on student visa naman. |
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Post by Pa0pa0 on Mar 19, 2014 16:08:23 GMT 12
We just had our PDOS yesterday sa CFO Office, Manila. Konti lang tao bound for NZ at AU parang 10 lang kami. We paid 400 pesos each. Nagstart ang briefing ng 2pm till 5pm, walang hassle kami naexperience except for minor lang kagaya ng wala kami nilagay na address sa NZ dahil wala pa kami plase to stay.
But I talked to the officer na kinakausap ko pa lang yung may ari ng bahay. Pumayag naman na ilagay na lang dun is Auckland, NZ ayun natapos din kami ng walang aberya po!
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Post by ModM on Mar 21, 2014 8:23:23 GMT 12
erwin ikaw lang ang required magPDOS di ba? since visit visa lang si baby and wife?
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Post by Pa0pa0 on Mar 22, 2014 12:54:25 GMT 12
erwin ikaw lang ang required magPDOS di ba? since visit visa lang si baby and wife? @mayagz pinag PDOS ko na din po ang wife at baby ko kahit tourist visa lang sila kasi ang sabi sa akin, pag approved na resident visa ko po diyan sa NZ at maaprove na din sila, hindi na po sila uuwi kaya pinag PDOS ko na din sila. Pero tama kayo hindi sila required to do the PDOS kasi nga tourist visa lang po sila.... |
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Post by ModM on Mar 22, 2014 20:57:16 GMT 12
Buti pinayagan kayo. In my case I was there na and explained na we are processing our residency soon kaso hindi daw.
Anyway another proof na paiba iba talaga ang CFO policies and rules.
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Mar 25, 2014 10:15:32 GMT 12
Sabi ko sa iyo sis ModM kanya-kanyang trip lang sila doon hahha.. |
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Post by ModM on Mar 29, 2014 21:18:58 GMT 12
May isang pinoy na hinire yung company ng hubby ko and parating na in April. Pinagpapasahan na naman ng CFO and POEA. Same case with my hubby.
Yung problem kasi is that since they are hired with a job offer. Work Visa holder sila. Pinagpipilitan ni CFO na sa POEA sila kasi nga work visa. Kaso pagdating sa POEA pinipilit na maglagay ng cause on repatriation sa contract nila. Eh yung job offer nila is not a limited contract na 2 years or so but a permanent job offer.
Kasakit ulo di ba? Labo eh. Dapat kung permanent job sa CFO sila hindi POEA.
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Post by move2nz on Mar 30, 2014 14:35:31 GMT 12
May isang pinoy na hinire yung company ng hubby ko and parating na in April. Pinagpapasahan na naman ng CFO and POEA. Same case with my hubby. Yung problem kasi is that since they are hired with a job offer. Work Visa holder sila. Pinagpipilitan ni CFO na sa POEA sila kasi nga work visa. Kaso pagdating sa POEA pinipilit na maglagay ng cause on repatriation sa contract nila. Eh yung job offer nila is not a limited contract na 2 years or so but a permanent job offer. Kasakit ulo di ba? Labo eh. Dapat kung permanent job sa CFO sila hindi POEA. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Hi sis ModM, yung job offer ni hubby was also for permanent work, he was then also holding a 3-year work visa. VIA gave specific instructions that he should proceed to POEA for PDOS, while I was provided with a letter of exemption from PDOS to show upon departure (if needed, and which immigration in Manila asked for. I had a partnership-based open work visa). Mukhang dependent sa visa type kung saan ang PDOS, instead of employment type, but I do get what you're saying. Totoo, ang labo din nila sa POEA. They were asking my hubby to request that the employer amend the conditions of employment and include a repatriation clause. One workaround is to get insurance coverage that should include among its benefits: repatriation in case of death, termination of employment, medical reasons, etc. Now they will say na dapat ang coverage period mo is the same as your visa's validity, which will be more expensive kung mahaba yung visa validity. Pero yung ke hubby, 1 year lang ang kinuha nya. On our end, we can understand why they would look for a repatriation clause, good intentions nga sana dahil para sa protection ng Pinoy employee. Pero hindi kasi nila ma-explain mabuti yung rationale, pati yung process, kaya wala din silang maibigay na alternative or workaround for it. Isa pa, one would think na sa dinami dami ng fees collected from OFWs, kaya ng ma-finance ang repatriation of anyone who would need it |
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Post by ModM on Mar 30, 2014 15:46:58 GMT 12
move2nz yung case namin is 30months work visa si hubby. nabraso nya sarili nya sa CFO. He insisted lang. I think simple lang naman sana. Why complicate. It doesnt really matter which office you get your PDOS kasi I reckon same content lang. I find it weird lang na yung JSV nga na wala pang work eh sa CFO pero yung may permanent work na ang offer and tells them na may intent to permanently reside sa NZ hindi sa kanila. I hope yung new employee nila masort out nya problem nya. Kami ng mga anak ko ang need magPDOS if we go home. Good luck na lang sa amin when the time comes. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Mar 31, 2014 11:38:02 GMT 12
Ano raw? Ipapabago ang contract to include repatriation clause? Waaa..
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Post by cordz on Apr 6, 2014 1:35:20 GMT 12
Naguluhan na po ako, narelease na visa ko, work visa, 30 mths validity, direct hire, permanent position. Sabi ng immigration advisor ko as Auckland, attend daw ako ng PDOS as POEA, pero pwede din pala sa CFO? Baka hanapan din ako ng repatriation clause, ano ba gagawin doon? Tapos sabi ng POEA dalhin ko daw ung contract ko tatatakan nila, lahat ng gastos ko 8000php abbot, ano ba yan bakit kamahal?
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Apr 10, 2014 10:23:39 GMT 12
Hi cordz! No idea about the costs. Wait natin opinion nila. Ang alam ko lang, basta may kinalaman ang gobyerno ng Pilipinas, maraming corruption. |
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Post by medrion on May 14, 2014 14:37:32 GMT 12
malabo talaga yan ModM, share lang nagkaroon ako din ng problema kasi ako nag-ayos documents ng mga nanny from Pinas para sa bossing kong Kiwi/Samoan dito sa Samoa. Napahiya nga ako dahil less than two weeks lang tinapos nila yung Work Permit dito (ang bilis), dinaan pa ng PhilEmbassy sa Wellington for red ribbon then pinadala lahat ng original sa Pinas. Oks na lahat (signed contract/labor dept approved dito/visa stamp sa passport/philembassy stamp/) lahat may seal ng justice department dito including phonenumbers/emails sakaling magduda yung mga taga POEA. ang siste wala nga daw yung repatriation sa contract nila, inulit lahat, muntik ko ng mamura sa sobrang kawbisitan ko yung sumagot sa poea. Ayun from March kakaayos ng papel nakarating sila dito last week na ng Sept. www.poea.gov.ph/docs/sec_various_new.pdfIn the event of death of the employee during the terms of this agreement, his remains and personal belongings shall be repatriated to the Philippines at the expense of the employer. In the case the repatriation of remains is not possible, the same may be disposed of upon prior approval of the employee’s next kin and/ or by the Philippine Embassy/ Consulate nearest the jobsite yan yung hinanap na word, number 12 sa standard contract employment .... sorry ang haba naalala ko kasi kakabwisit lang... kaya sabi ni Bosing "you Filipinos are very expensive" |
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Post by medrion on May 14, 2014 14:49:46 GMT 12
cont... The purpose is ok sana kasi nagemail pako prior to the contract signing kasi dinala ng mga Nanny yung scan copy contract muna sa poea para basahin nila, bago isign at ipadala sa PhilEm-Welli then to Pinas. Lumabas yung predicament when the two ladies applying for the PDOS and exit documents, dapat daw may repatriation. pinoward ko yung sagot ng poea personel sakin. Sagot ng isa nagkamali lang daw dahil masyadong maraming aplikante (teka nagrereklamo na ba ko ) kala daw nila middle east... Then on the phone the lady asked me, where is Samoa located? POEA yun huh? pinahirapan nyo tapos hindi nyo pala alam yung bansang pupuntahan. ang sakit sa bangs! |
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Post by medrion on May 14, 2014 15:03:14 GMT 12
dagdag experience ulit... kaya yung form sa taas na binanggit ko ginamit ko na din kapag nagbabalik manggagawa ako... wala ng hassle Kaya once na pagbalik namin sa Pinas sigurado dadaanan ko din yung route na pinagdaanan nyo. At least nabasa ko na dito hehehe |
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