PDOS requirement inquiry

[ModM]

medrion thanks for sharing. Truth is marami tayong government employees who do not know the policies by heart.

[aBiSh @admin]

Lol "Where is Samoa?"

Dapat meron silang world map kapag naga-accept ng applications. Hahaha..

Thank you for sharing this medrion!

[medrion]

May 16, 2014 15:05:29 GMT 12 aBiSh @admin said:

Lol "Where is Samoa?"

Dapat meron silang world map kapag naga-accept ng applications. Hahaha..

Thank you for sharing this medrion!

naranasan ko naman din po pala yun in a positive way aBiSh @admin

way back 2007 sa poea...First time nakapila po ako sa POEA kasama ng mga ibang nag-aapply karamihan papuntang gitnang silangan.

pangalawa ko sa huli sa pila, tinawag yung name ko via mikropono anlakas eh mga 45mins na kami sa pilang lahat. Sunod naman ako, tanong lang ng poea personel "Samoa san to"? sabay tatak ng para magbayad ng OEC.. hehehe Ang sama ng tingin sakin nung mga ibang nag-aapply, nagmadali nalang po akong umalis. Kakahiya din

[grest00]

Hello sa lahat!
Ask ko lng sa mga nka tapos na kumuhang PDOS, yung certficate ba merong expiry? Like dapat ba kukuha ka lng if ilang months (let's say 3-6mos) prior to your departure?

[nelson2014]

kailangan pa ba ang poea kung WTR - accredited employer na ang na issue na visa sayo?
nasa Malaysia ako at may POEA naman with my current employer, if ever i will get the job offer sa nz and this wtr visa, puede ko na ba bypass n lng poea na yan? pampatagal lng kase. thanks!

May 3, 2013 22:16:54 GMT 12 Sniff said:

May 3, 2013 1:31:04 GMT 12 donmaskulado said:

Para po sa kaalaman ng lahat hindi po lahat ng Work to Resident visa ay sa CFO ang bagsak. Tulad po ng sa akin na Work to Resident - accredited employer ay sa POEA po ako pinapunta. Ang di nga lang po maganda is nakapag PDOS ako sa CFO at ng nalaman nila na WTR-accredited employer ako ay binawi nila yung PDOS ko. Sayang lang ang gasolina at tollgate. so para hindi na po maulit sa mga ka pinoy kiwi natin ito po yung sagot din ng INZ sa inquiry ko after the incident

Good afternoon,

You have a work to residence visa with an accredited employer; therefore you need to obtain POEA clearance, not CFO.

Our website has more information;
www.immigration.govt.nz/branch/manila/guide/exitrequirements.htm

19. Work – Details follow;
§ WTR- Work to Residence Talent/Accredited Employer / Long Term Skills Shortages (with job offer / specific employer on label)
§ Will work for an employer in NZ.
§ May be eligible for residence after living in NZ for a certain period of time. An employer noted on the label.
§ Work
§ POEA clearance is required

Kind regards,

INZ Manila

Good Info. so thanks for clarifying

[Sniff]

Jun 8, 2014 4:08:03 GMT 12 nelson2014 said:

kailangan pa ba ang poea kung WTR - accredited employer na ang na issue na visa sayo?
nasa Malaysia ako at may POEA naman with my current employer, if ever i will get the job offer sa nz and this wtr visa, puede ko na ba bypass n lng poea na yan? pampatagal lng kase. thanks!

May 3, 2013 22:16:54 GMT 12 Sniff said:

Good Info. so thanks for clarifying

nelson2014 Honestly i cant give you a direct answer as you can see yun post eh last 2012 and 2013 pa ata so policy may have changed. But PDOS sticker would only be checked if your exiting PH airport.

[nelson2014]

Jun 10, 2014 10:29:46 GMT 12 Sniff said:

Jun 8, 2014 4:08:03 GMT 12 nelson2014 said:

kailangan pa ba ang poea kung WTR - accredited employer na ang na issue na visa sayo?
nasa Malaysia ako at may POEA naman with my current employer, if ever i will get the job offer sa nz and this wtr visa, puede ko na ba bypass n lng poea na yan? pampatagal lng kase. thanks!

nelson2014 Honestly i cant give you a direct answer as you can see yun post eh last 2012 and 2013 pa ata so policy may have changed. But PDOS sticker would only be checked if your exiting PH airport.

thanks so much sniff sa feedback mo ha, I will really take note of that. "PDOS sticker would only be checked if your exiting PH airport." I will also call POEA hotline or yung embassy natin dito para sure, as you have said, policies may have changed, I will update everyone here asap. salamat uli! :-)

[aBiSh @admin]

I'm sure sis ModM can answer nelson2014's inquiry.

[nelson2014]

thanks abish gail. mayagx, I am looking forward to your response. Thanks! :-)

[ModM]

nelson2014 nakupo truth is labo talaga ang sistema ng PDOS. Nakakalito. Di ko alam sa iyo kasi galing ka na sa ibang bansa at may POEA sticker ka na sa kanila.

Alam ko my hubby should have had a POEA sticker kaso sa CFO ipinilit nya magPDOS kasi pinagpasapasahan sya eh.

Sa CFP dedma sila kung WTR ka kasi ang visa mo will not have the term na WTR but work visa lang tapos specific details on employer and position. Ang good news lang yung dependents mo like your wife and children di na magPDOS.

Email POEA and CFO na lang para mas okay.

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[chic80]

Hello po. My hubby needs your help. He is on the process of getting his POEA clearance para maka pag PDOS na rin. Kumuha muna si hubs ng Direct hire compliance sheet para mapirmahan ng employer niya kaso POEA asked him an authenticated working contract na galing talaga sa employer. Is this really needed kasi ang contract na andito sa akin ay scanned copy lang from my employer with signature pero not authenticated. Please help po. Salamat

[nelson2014]

Jun 10, 2014 16:18:48 GMT 12 ModM said:

nelson2014 nakupo truth is labo talaga ang sistema ng PDOS. Nakakalito. Di ko alam sa iyo kasi galing ka na sa ibang bansa at may POEA sticker ka na sa kanila.

Alam ko my hubby should have had a POEA sticker kaso sa CFO ipinilit nya magPDOS kasi pinagpasapasahan sya eh.

Sa CFP dedma sila kung WTR ka kasi ang visa mo will not have the term na WTR but work visa lang tapos specific details on employer and position. Ang good news lang yung dependents mo like your wife and children di na magPDOS.

Email POEA and CFO na lang para mas okay.

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ModM thanks sa feedback mo ha. I really appreciate it. Kakalito nga PDOS no? lalu pa naging complicated because of CFO...nung kayo ng hubby mo ba, pagdating sa New Zealand, di ba hindi na check ng New Zealand immigration kung may POEA ka and CFO or PDOS ka di ba? or particular pa rin ba doon ang New Zealand din? kumusta naman kayo dyan sa NZ? Masaya naman? Hindi naman boring di ba? :-)

[nelson2014]

Jun 10, 2014 19:21:08 GMT 12 chic80 said:

Hello po. My hubby needs your help. He is on the process of getting his POEA clearance para maka pag PDOS na rin. Kumuha muna si hubs ng Direct hire compliance sheet para mapirmahan ng employer niya kaso POEA asked him an authenticated working contract na galing talaga sa employer. Is this really needed kasi ang contract na andito sa akin ay scanned copy lang from my employer with signature pero not authenticated. Please help po. Salamat

hi chic80, based lang sa experience ko sa pag-abroad sa Malaysia and Singapore, kailangan talaga yung original signed contract from employer , na parehong signed ng hubby mo and signed ng employer nya doon. I think kung NZ work visa rin naman yung sa hubby mo, lalu na kung temporary work visa lang, POEA will require the same authenticated or original contract. Pls just ask them na courier na lang agad, at sa experience ko noon, 2 times pa nagpadala ng original contract yung employer ko noon kase pina-add ng POEA yung mga terms about "repatriation of worker's remains in case of death" and " there must be just causes in case of termination" basta please double check muna with POEA kung ano ba tlaga "required contract terms nila" and dapat sumunod yung employer nya doon and ilagay sa contract bago nya padala yung original contract sa inyo. All the Best! 

[ModM]

nelson2014 walang hinanap na PDOS on this side of immigration. Visa lang tiningnan. Wala rin naman hininging proof etc and as far as I remember no questions asked. Hehehe.

Awa ng Diyos, healthy kami at nasa maayos na kalagayan. Our kids enjoy school and madami na sila friends. Kaligayahan ko lang as nanay ay umuwi mga anak ko na may kwento about their day with friends in school. It sends a strong signal sa akin na adjusted na sila dito. Ako ang bored kasi hindi pa din ako nakakaland ng paid job although I keep myself busy with volunteer work.

BTT - meron ako nakuhang name card nung nakausap ko sa CFO kasi he wanted to assure me na wala hihingin PDOS sa amin ng mga anak ko when we fly out from Pinas. Kapag nahanap ko I would share dito na lang name and details nya. Parang Mr Tibe yung naalala ko na name nya.

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[nelson2014]

ModM, thanks uli sa response. at least pala tlgang kailangan lng nmn PDOS kung from PH to NZ ka.
i am so happy for u na happy naman life dyan and maayos kayo ng family nyo. good luck sa job hunting mo rin. let's keep in touch! :-)

[sheila2013]

Hello! share ko lng experience ko and hubby sa pagkuha ng PDOS.
Work visa holder c hubby, nagPDOS cya and got OEC from POEA.
I was given an Open work visa under partnership, sabi ng mga kilala ni hubby sa NZ na need ko kumuha ng PDOS.
Pumunta ako sa POEA pero sabi nila ang allowed lng magPDOS ay mga my employer na. Nakita den nila ung letter from Immigration na I don't need an Overseas Employment Certificate from POEA kc I am not employed by any New Zealand company.

sabi ng kakilala ng husband ko need ko daw mgPDOS sa CFO.
Tumawag ako sa CFO to clarify if pede ako kumuha ng PDOS sa kanila, hindi ren daw kc OFW ang hubby ko pakita ko lng daw OEC ng husband ko.sana lng talaga hindi ako hanapan.

Hi ModM, I read na d ka na den nagPDOS. Tama ba? worried lng bka magkaproblema d maka-alis.

[aBiSh @admin]

Hi sheila2013! If both CFO and POEA tells you you don't need PDOS, wag ka na mag-worry. Ignore mo na lang muna yung advise ng kakilala ng husband mo.

[ModM]

sheila2013 pareho tayo ng visa. No need ng PDOS.

Unlike you I didn't call CFO but paid them a visit. They gave me a print-out of a table of who needs PDOS or not along with a business card of the gentleman I spoke with doon.

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[Ano ni Moose]

Hi All,

I decided to email yung nag conduct ng PDOS seminar ko back in 2010 to clarify this at naguguluhan na din ako kung ano ba talaga ang dapat when it comes to PDOS and OEC. Eto yung sagot niya:

Hi Nico,

You probably don't remember me but I attended a PDOS seminar you did back in 2010. I have a couple of Filipino friends in our community here in Auckland who are confused about the PDOS requirement and would like to clarify a couple of things with you. They are also told contradicting things by CFO and POEA regarding what is needed for which visa type.

- Is PDOS really required? I know some people who flew back to the Philippines for holidays who never got their CFO sticker before and was able to depart without being questions/asked about it. - Yes Sir, both for Immigrant visa holders and working visa holders. For NZ, special attention is also being given to WTR Holders as well. Please be informed that some visas being issued by NZ Embassy in Manila does not require to attend PDOS.

- Do work visa holders require CFO sticker? What about partners who holds open work visa?

Yes Sir, but they need to secure an OEC from POEA. However, if it is a WTR Visa, then they need a CFO-PDOS.

- What about Job Search Visa (Deferred SMC)? Are they required to take PDOS?

Sir, this is something new for me po. Can you tell me more information about this one po.

If you have any material that I can disseminate to the Filipino community here in NZ to clarify these and other cases, that would be most helpful.

Sir, I do work now in a different division but will be more than willing to connect you to the division that handles NZ concerns. On your next reply Sir, I will introduce you to Director Miravalles and Mr. Manny Tibe.

Thank you po Sir!

Hope this helps,
Anonimoose

[ModM]

Ano ni Moose nice naman that you still have the email of the person na speaker nung PDOS sa time nyo.

I checked the INZ website kung nagbago na yung pdf file explaining whether one needs PDOS from POEA or CFO. Nashare na rin dito yung file dati but will share again.

From INZ website -
Philippine Exit Requirements
DO YOU NEED Philippine Overseas Employment Agency (POEA) OR Commission on Filipinos Overseas (CFO) PRE-DEPARTURE CLEARANCE?

Yung table na sinasabi ko is yung pdf file na DO YOU NEED...
A printed copy was provided to me by Mr Tibe from CFO June 2013.

It seems applicable pa rin sya. I suggest na if anyone wants to go to CFO or PDOS, eto ang ipakita nyo. At hanapin nyo si Mr Tibe kung nakakalito talaga.

Between CFO and POEA - hassle puntahan ang CFO kasi hindi sya accessible by bus routes or LRT/MRT and walang parking slots masyado. POEA is accessible kasi along EDSA lang pero konti tao sa CFO compared sa POEA. Andami tao minsan sa POEA - blockbuster lang.

[cecille]

same din tau ng visa sis! nagpunta dn kmi ng cfo nun for my pdos pero di na daw need si hubby lng me pdos sa poea

Jun 18, 2014 15:20:45 GMT 12 sheila2013 said:

Hello! share ko lng experience ko and hubby sa pagkuha ng PDOS.
Work visa holder c hubby, nagPDOS cya and got OEC from POEA.
I was given an Open work visa under partnership, sabi ng mga kilala ni hubby sa NZ na need ko kumuha ng PDOS.
Pumunta ako sa POEA pero sabi nila ang allowed lng magPDOS ay mga my employer na. Nakita den nila ung letter from Immigration na I don't need an Overseas Employment Certificate from POEA kc I am not employed by any New Zealand company.

sabi ng kakilala ng husband ko need ko daw mgPDOS sa CFO.
Tumawag ako sa CFO to clarify if pede ako kumuha ng PDOS sa kanila, hindi ren daw kc OFW ang hubby ko pakita ko lng daw OEC ng husband ko.sana lng talaga hindi ako hanapan.

Hi ModM, I read na d ka na den nagPDOS. Tama ba? worried lng bka magkaproblema d maka-alis.

[jej]

Hi po, currently I'm having issue with POEA regarding OEC. My employer already reached the maximum number of direct hires which is 10, and pang 11 po ako. Sabi ni POEA need ko to undergo agency recruitment at on hold pa ang processing ng OEC ko. We asked if we can be reconsider dahil pang 11 lang naman ako sa list and moving forward willing naman si employer mag agency na. Still nireject request namin.

Ask ko lang if meron nakaexperience ng ganito? And anu po ginawa nyo? If undergo agency gaano po katagal un? Meron na ako Working Visa and need to enter NZ before end of August. Anu po maadvise nyo iba pang options to exit Manila without going through the OEC processing? Thanks in advance!

[heatsink]

Jul 1, 2014 13:50:20 GMT 12 jej said:

Hi po, currently I'm having issue with POEA regarding OEC. My employer already reached the maximum number of direct hires which is 10, and pang 11 po ako. Sabi ni POEA need ko to undergo agency recruitment at on hold pa ang processing ng OEC ko. We asked if we can be reconsider dahil pang 11 lang naman ako sa list and moving forward willing naman si employer mag agency na. Still nireject request namin.

Ask ko lang if meron nakaexperience ng ganito? And anu po ginawa nyo? If undergo agency gaano po katagal un? Meron na ako Working Visa and need to enter NZ before end of August. Anu po maadvise nyo iba pang options to exit Manila without going through the OEC processing? Thanks in advance!

Enter Singapore as tourist. Check out Universal Studios and play at the Resorts World Sentosa Casino. Then biyahe na to NZ.

[jej]

We're thinking about that also pero di po kaya maging suspicious ang PH immigration sa NAIA dahil considered red flag dahil meron NZ Visa ang passport? Payagan po kaya kami umalis?

[heatsink]

You need to convince yourself that you genuinely just want to tour Singapore. Maybe bring some friends/family along.

[jej]

May nakagawa na po ba ng ganyan? hehe

[ModM]

jej I will not recommend the "illegal" route but can give you possible areas where you will hit a snag if you are not careful.

- a good airline ground crew will ask you for a return ticket during check-in
- he/she will expect that your luggage will not be much if you are in SG only for a tour
- if the check-in process is smooth, an immigration officer will ask you for a return ticket, may even ask you details about your hotel/accommodation arrangements in SG, what your itinerary for the stay would be, etc
- let's not hope he/she does not see your NZ visa. If your passport is one that has too many visas on them, he/she will likely think it is just among your many other visas. If he/she does, be prepared to answer questions about when you intend to go to NZ?
- your e-ticket should not contain the full itinerary -- Manila-Singapore-Auckland (or whichever city you are entering New Zealand first). You may purchase the tickets separately BUT know that when you purchase a ticket for NZ with a starting point from another city, it will be more expensive if you do it via a travel agency. You can do it online instead. Buy a Manila-Singapore-Manila ticket and a Singapore-Auckland ticket separately.

And of course, lastly if something happens to you and you have not been covered by POEA etc or other insurances provided by your company, it will be a bummer. Now it is up to you to take the risk and plan carefully na hindi ka maipit sa airport.

Haay at anong drama at kalokohan naman yan ng POEA na magrecommend ng next step i.e. agency pero rereject din. Ang labo!!

[ModM]

Ayun nahanap ko din sa wakas ang calling card nung kumausap sa akin sa CFO.

Manolo "Manny" V. Tibe
Emigrant Services Officer II
Migrant Integration and Education Division
Tel no. (632)5524713
Fax no. (632) 5618327
Email 1(although binura nya try nyo na lang din) - [e-mail]
Email 2 (sinulat nya sa likod) [e-mail]

He also wrote down the number of CFO NAIA desk - 879-5685

I hope this helps.

[heatsink]

Jul 1, 2014 17:51:48 GMT 12 jej said:

May nakagawa na po ba ng ganyan? hehe

A lot of people do this. I did this before however since girl ka the probability of a successful escape from the Philippines is lower. It may sound sexist but it's the reality.

[ModM]

heatsink stricter ang immigration with females dahil sa women trafficking ay mataas talaga globally. Buti na rin yun.

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