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Post by pinoybizness on Jan 8, 2015 17:56:23 GMT 12
Share ko lang po yung sa anak ko 17 na sya so need ng English Proficiency Proof. Eto po yung nagpahirap sa aming applications.
What we did po is nagpunta kami sa school ng anak ko. Good thing is same school lang sya nag Elementary
and 2nd Yr highschool. So humingi po kami ng Medium of instruction ay English but with academic years
po. Meaning from what year to what year which will satisfy the condition below.
o completion of all primary education and at least 3 years of secondary education (that is, the equivalent of New Zealand Forms 3 to 5 or years 9 to 11) at schools using English as the language of instruction;
For my wife naman Medium of Instruction din from her University school naman. Pero shes working here
in SG. I don't know of this is another factor kaya puwede na yung medium of instruction cert.
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 19, 2015 15:45:58 GMT 12
Hello ask ko lang po.... 10 years na si hubby overseas... yung school nya wala sa exemption kaya nag IQA kami. Nagbigay kami ng proof of English from school at yung proof nga na matagal na sya overseas. Pero eto sabi ng IO:
Evidence to prove your partner’s English proficiency. Because your partner’s qualification is not currently recognized, therefore, the letter from your partner’s University to state English is the medium of instruction in this university is not sufficient evidence to prove your partner’s English proficiency
Ano-ano pa po bang proof ang pwede pa namin i-submit? May nabasa ako sa ibang thread (di ko na matandaan kung saan), letter from HR. Enough na po ba kaya yun?? One week lang binigay saming deadline.
Thanks po in advance!
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Post by mpz on Mar 19, 2015 15:57:47 GMT 12
IELTS na yan...
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Post by engie on Mar 19, 2015 16:07:18 GMT 12
Hi CheeseCurlz,
Kayo po ba Principal Applicant....
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 19, 2015 16:15:34 GMT 12
ha? IELTS din ba hiningi sa inyo after?? Kase 1 week lang binigay saming deadline.. impossibleng makapag exam sya at makakuha ng result in the span of 1 week  Hi engie.. ako po yung principal. Sakin wala pong problema kase yung school ko nasa list of exemptions. |
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Post by mpz on Mar 19, 2015 16:25:23 GMT 12
Read your ITA baka naka specify yung ibang options dun, if not, just ask your CO.
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 19, 2015 16:38:27 GMT 12
Na-read na po cover to cover for the last 4 months kaya yung Certificate lang from school ang binigay.. ang sabi lang kase:
• providing acceptable evidence of English language ability;
Try muna namin ung Certificate from Employer .... hay sana pwede.
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Post by mpz on Mar 19, 2015 19:09:08 GMT 12
www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/skilledmigrant/caniapply/english/Partners and children Everyone else included in the application who is aged 16 and over must also meet a minimum standard of English. We accept the following proof of ability: A recognised qualification from a course taught entirely in English. You are in ongoing skilled employment in New Zealand, and have been for at least 12 months. You have sufficient schooling in English: primary and at least three years' secondary schooling, five years' secondary schooling, or tertiary course of at least three years' length. You have certain secondary certificates with passes in English classes: General Certificate of Education (GCE) 'A' levels from Britain or Singapore, Cambridge Certificate of Proficiency in English, Hong Kong Advanced Level Examinations (HKALE) including Use of English, University of Cambridge in collaboration with University of Malaysia, General Certificate of English (GCE) 'A' levels, International Baccalaureate, full diploma in English Medium, STPM 920 (Malaysia), with A or B pass in English Literature, South African Matriculation Certificate, with minimum D pass in English (Higher Grade), South African Senior Certificate, with minimum D pass in English (Higher Grade), endorsed as 'matriculation exempt', or New Zealand tertiary entrance qualification gained on completing year 13 or seventh form. You have a recent IELTS certificate with an overall band score of 5 or better in the General or Academic modules. In all cases, we may still require an IELTS certificate.
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 19, 2015 21:14:30 GMT 12
Kapag pina-require po ba sya mag IELTS... .start po ba ulit kami from scratch meaning bayad po ulit sa EOI, then ITA?
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Post by ModM on Mar 19, 2015 21:23:15 GMT 12
CheeseCurlz di ko alam ano ang line of work ni hubby mo pero in my case kahit hindi ako principal and although exempt na school ko, I provided certification from school, a letter from myself enumerating reasons why I think I am proficient in English - e.g. working in organisations with multicultural environments, speaker in international conferences etc. I also provided a list of publications I co-wrote with links so she can verify them. If you can have his schools including high school and elementary education also give their certificates it would be good. Also let her know that you checked the IELTS calendar and tried to get in but the earliest date is beyond her one week deadline. Your husband should demonstrate to your CO that his English is flawless. Let him prepare the letter and forward to you all in well - crafted perfect English. Goodluck! Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 20, 2015 12:27:12 GMT 12
Hi ModM, Thank you po sa reply. Nung unang submit po namin ng ITA, nagsubmit kami ng letter why he shouldn't take IELTS. Pati cert from the University. Sa IT po line nya, Network Engr. More than 10 years na overseas. Ang di na lang po namin na include eh letter from Employer nya....kase ayaw magbigay nila nung una. Ngayon pinu push naming magbigay... isa-submit din namin mga email correspondences nya na English ang communication nila sa work.
Sa tingin mo po email muna namin si CO at explain sa kanya o isend na namin agad sa kanya yung Employer Certificate and emails and explanation via courier agad? Worried ako sa IELTS kase since need ko points nya dapat maka 6.5 sya... |
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 20, 2015 16:29:14 GMT 12
Eto po kse gusto kong ipaglaban sa kanya hehehe... since need ko yung points nya sa Qualification, nasa Ops Manual SM5.15 and SM5.5:
Notwithstanding (b) above, an immigration officer may, on a case by case basis, consider the following as evidence of the principal applicant meeting the minimum standard of English if:
iii. they provide other evidence which satisfies an immigration officer that, taking account of that evidence and all the circumstances of the application, they are a competent user of English. These circumstances may include but are not limited to:
o the country in which the applicant currently resides;
o the country(ies) in which the applicant has previously resided;
o the duration of residence in each country;
o whether the applicant speaks any language other than English;
o whether members of the applicant's family speak English;
o whether members of the applicant's family speak any language other than English;
o the nature of the applicant's current or previous employment (if any) and whether that is or was likely to require skill in English language;
o the nature of the applicant's qualifications (if any) and whether the obtaining of those qualifications was likely to require skill in the English language.
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Post by ModM on Mar 20, 2015 16:38:50 GMT 12
To be honest di ko alam if by courier ba ulit ang response or pwede by email. Sana magrespond yung iba. Iba kasi case namin. We responded by calling pur CO and meeting her in person.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by mpz on Mar 20, 2015 17:04:42 GMT 12
If all else fails, your CO might require you to get IELTS, and give you ample amount of time to get it, or have you take ESOL. According to my immigration adviser, the CO does have the right to have you do this if he/she is not satisfied with your proof of English language ability.
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Post by aBiSh @admin on Mar 25, 2015 9:39:15 GMT 12
Hi CheeseCurlz! Kung one week lang ang binigay at ang ni-submit ninyo lang ay certificate from the university, mas maganda kung mag-submit pa kayo ng ibang proof of English language ability na nabanggit ng ibang members natin, lalong-lalo na yung kay medrion. Mabisang proof yung email correspondence at work or testimony from the employer. |
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Post by gracia on Mar 25, 2015 10:53:29 GMT 12
Tanong lang po. Kapag hindi kasama sa exempted schools yung PA o SA, nirerequire ng ibang proof of english? Ganon po ba yun?
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Post by mpz on Mar 25, 2015 11:02:54 GMT 12
What do you mean "ibang" proof? Anyway, this is totally case officer dependent.
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 25, 2015 13:42:30 GMT 12
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Post by gracia on Mar 25, 2015 18:40:10 GMT 12
mpz ang ibig ko pong sabihin yung ibang proof other than dun sa proof of English from School. Pasensya na bitin yung tanong ko.  CheeseCurlz ganon pala yun. Ang buong akala ko rin ok na ang galing sa school. thanks sa inputs ha. Puwedeng malaman kung anong level ang nakuha ni husband sa IQA?
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Post by mpz on Mar 25, 2015 18:46:22 GMT 12
Kaming mag asawa parehong wala sa exempt list ang schools, pero English medium letter lang ang binigay namin at wala namang hiningi na iba. Depende talaga sa case officer kung minsan.
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Post by pjyg11 on Mar 25, 2015 18:50:18 GMT 12
mpz nung nag apply ka ng SMC my job offer ka ba? Baka factor din yun.
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 25, 2015 19:08:40 GMT 12
Oo nga mpz .. Atsaka nasa NZ ka na ba nun? Sa timeline mo kase wala kang interview. Yun lang napansin ko sa signature mo @gracia, PAR level 6, pati sa IQA level 6. |
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Post by mpz on Mar 25, 2015 21:05:44 GMT 12
Yup, work visa ako, pero wala naman misis ko dito, pumunta siya dito RV na siya. Hindi naman level 7 ang school ng misis ko pero hindi naman siya hinanapan ng ibang proof ng English ability.
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 25, 2015 21:29:56 GMT 12
Ahhhh... kase yung hubby ko need ko sya sa points ko. Wala kaming job offer or work pa sa NZ at kasama sya sa bonus points ko.
Parang ikaw pala ung officemate ko. May Job Offer naman sila, level 5 sya as principal applicant. Included lang misis nya sa application at wala syang kinuhang points kay misis. Tinanggap yung Certificate from University sa kanila. Kasabayan ko ngayon sa ITA. Mataas points ng ganun pala.. galing.
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Post by ModM on Mar 25, 2015 23:27:29 GMT 12
CheeseCurlz wala na interview kapag may job na or may job offer. Aside from the supporting documents that you provide to vouch for your English ability such as Certificates from employers and schools, importante yung communication with CO. Your email grammar and style of writing will give your CO a good idea of your proficieny. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 26, 2015 0:41:09 GMT 12
ModM, heheeh oo nga po.. Napagtanto kong may job offer na dahil no interview  Taas din pala ng points ng meron na.
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Post by rhapza21 on Mar 26, 2015 5:20:28 GMT 12
@cheesecurlz Sa amin sinama ko si misis sa bonus points nagprovide lang ako ng letter of medium of communication sa amin dalawa galeng sa university. Nung time na yun din walang work si misis nung nagsubmit kame ng ITA namin. Andun yung kaba na baka hanapan kame later pero alam mo yung bago man kame mapanayam nakakuha sya ng work at additional docs na lang pinasa namin para sa kanya. Ayun mabute naman nung nagkaroon kame ng CO meron na syang work nun. Depende talaga din sa CO kung hihingan or hinde. Kaya nyo yan.. |
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Post by gracia on Mar 26, 2015 19:54:29 GMT 12
Pwede po bang makahingi ng draft ng letter na nakuha nyo from employers para dagdag proof of english? paano po ba ang ginawa nyo sis CheeseCurlz |
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Post by CheeseCurlz on Mar 26, 2015 21:13:52 GMT 12
Ganito ung binigay samin nung HR: Re: CERTIFICATE OF EMPLOYMENT This certification is issued upon the request of Mr. XXX, an employee of XYZ Company from <Date> to <Date>, to certify that ENGLISH is the medium of communication used at work in XYZ Company. Should you have any questions or clarifications, please do not hesitate to contact the undersigned. Thank you. ============================ Pakibasa po yung next post ni ModM po dto hehhe may story pa yang Cert na yan sa taas☝️ |
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Post by gracia on Mar 26, 2015 22:12:44 GMT 12
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Taas din pala ng points ng meron na.