Applying for Residency and PR (NZ Based Only) 2019

[annerkz]

Hello. Anyone po who had an experience applying for a residence visa with family? nagkakaproblema po kami ni hubby to gather documents under # 2

>> At least 3 of the following to show you have lived together for at least 12 months; and
□ Joint tenancy agreements - none kasi house po kasi ng parents ni hubby anh tinirhan namin.
□ Joint ownership of a residential property- none
□ Joint mortgage/loan documents- none
□ Joint insurance policies- availed lang po a month ago
□ Joint assets/liabilities- none
□ bank statements, utility bills or other mail received at your home address. The document must state your or
your partner’s name, the home address and a date. If it was addressed to you and your partner separately, you
and your partner need to provide at least one document each, which were received at the same address with
similar dates. - receipts lang po meron kami, ulitities are named after my hubby. may letter po from mew zealand to pinas but dated feb 2019 lang po.

salamat po sa sasagot.

[allune]

annerkz



As mentioned official sources are best but if you can’t supply those, you must think of alternative documents. If you had lived with your in laws/parents then they can attest in a letter or an affidavit (latter is better kasi under oath) that you lived with your husband from date A to date B (duration) in their house.

As for bills, if the bills are in their names, do you both pay a share of it and paanong hatian inyong mag-asawa, they can include it in the letter. Since they live with you they can also share how you are as a couple and how you spend time together... etc kung anong roles niyo within the relationship , pag chores naghahatian ba kayo ng gagawin... they’re in the second best position to describe your home life then. Second best because kayo na couple ang pwedeng mag provide ng best evidences of partnership, magko-corroborate lang sila...

And to spread it around, you can also ask friends to write letters of support, for example detailing your travels with them, sharing info about gatherings you attended together as a couple.

Utilities doesn’t have to be jointly owned, just provide an explanation why it is the way it is (maybe hubby is sole provider? Or you just haven’t got around into putting you on the bill as well)

Best that the couple write a statement of relationship to show INZ how you work as a couple and as partners... because without you telling them, how would they know about you? There’s no standard answer or approach to this since every couple is different. Shed some light on how you decide on things, make plans together, etc. Provide reasons how you’re not able to accumulate assets together (ibang priority maybe mag-ipon ng cash, nag help sa magulang—-which can be a joint decision too). Who’s the main provider? If husband lang ang nagwo-work,does he give you spending money? If both work how do you divide your money for bills and other expenses?

There’s so many ways how you can prove your relationship to INZ.

Don’t limit yourself sa binigay na example ng INZ sa ITA...

PS I backread your posts and andito na pala kayo sa NZ, it’s so much easier to collect evidences here. Cash/Money is an asset, so do you have joint accounts here? If individual accounts what’s your arrangement in paying the bills? Walang tenancy agreement? Are you flatting? Then your head tenant can write an attestation for you that you lived with them from then to now. Maybe you have a flat sharing agreement? That would do.

[Jude]

annerkz
almost same tayo ng situation. nahirapan din ako kumpletuhin yan. magsusubmit pa lang ako ng ITA requirements hopefully by next week. Dun sa joint assets,nag open kami last May ng joint bank account ng wife ko kasi considered naman asset ang cash diba? pero hindi ako sure, sana may makapag comment.hehe Yung sa joint tenancy agreement, nagpagawa ako ng lease contract sa parents ko since sila may ari ng bahay na tinitirhan ngayon ng family ko sa pinas. September last year pa nakatira family ko dun sa house pero last May lang din ako nagpagawa ng Lease contract sa parents ko. same din sa inyo, nakatira kami dati sa house ng parents ko kaya yung wife ko walang utility bills. sinama ko na lang yung mga hospital bills and delivery receipts na nakapangalan sa kanya, pati baranggay certificate na nakaadress dun sa bahay ng parents ko dati sinama ko na.hehe Any suggestion po dun sa mga with same experience before? baka may maidagdag pa bago magsubmit. Thanks

[allune]

Jude read my reply to annerkz

I also suggest finding yung partnership visa thread dito and yung de facto thread... marami rami nang examples doon

[annerkz]

Jun 19, 2019 22:12:11 GMT 12 allune said:

annerkz



As mentioned official sources are best but if you can’t supply those, you must think of alternative documents. If you had lived with your in laws/parents then they can attest in a letter or an affidavit (latter is better kasi under oath) that you lived with your husband from date A to date B (duration) in their house.

As for bills, if the bills are in their names, do you both pay a share of it and paanong hatian inyong mag-asawa, they can include it in the letter. Since they live with you they can also share how you are as a couple and how you spend time together... etc kung anong roles niyo within the relationship , pag chores naghahatian ba kayo ng gagawin... they’re in the second best position to describe your home life then. Second best because kayo na couple ang pwedeng mag provide ng best evidences of partnership, magko-corroborate lang sila...

And to spread it around, you can also ask friends to write letters of support, for example detailing your travels with them, sharing info about gatherings you attended together as a couple.

Utilities doesn’t have to be jointly owned, just provide an explanation why it is the way it is (maybe hubby is sole provider? Or you just haven’t got around into putting you on the bill as well)

Best that the couple write a statement of relationship to show INZ how you work as a couple and as partners... because without you telling them, how would they know about you? There’s no standard answer or approach to this since every couple is different. Shed some light on how you decide on things, make plans together, etc. Provide reasons how you’re not able to accumulate assets together (ibang priority maybe mag-ipon ng cash, nag help sa magulang—-which can be a joint decision too). Who’s the main provider? If husband lang ang nagwo-work,does he give you spending money? If both work how do you divide your money for bills and other expenses?

There’s so many ways how you can prove your relationship to INZ.

Don’t limit yourself sa binigay na example ng INZ sa ITA...

PS I backread your posts and andito na pala kayo sa NZ, it’s so much easier to collect evidences here. Cash/Money is an asset, so do you have joint accounts here? If individual accounts what’s your arrangement in paying the bills? Walang tenancy agreement? Are you flatting? Then your head tenant can write an attestation for you that you lived with them from then to now. Maybe you have a flat sharing agreement? That would do.

hello po allune. thanks so much po sa help. we were able to provide the ones in your list when we applied for our work visa. however, the ITA requires us more specific requirements po. pls see attached image.

[allune]

annerkz you’re concerned wala kayong ma submit sa number 2? Which ones of these exactly? You’re in NZ so at least three of these is madali lang makuha... bank statement/utility bills, tenancy agreement, insurance. Wala nung first two I mentioned or did you mean wala kayong 12-months worth?

This is why I had suggested to supply with alternative proof + explanations kung bakit wala...

[annerkz]

Jun 19, 2019 22:49:07 GMT 12 allune said:

annerkz you’re concerned wala kayong ma submit sa number 2? Which ones of these exactly? You’re in NZ so at least three of these is madali lang makuha... bank statement/utility bills, tenancy agreement, insurance. Wala nung first two I mentioned or did you mean wala kayong 12-months worth?

This is why I had suggested to supply with alternative proof + explanations kung bakit wala...

yes po. kaka-1 month pa lang po namin sa NZ nung June 13. we hava a tenancy agreement but premature. we have individual bank statements. but yun nga po not 12 months old.

[allune]

annerkz please don’t quote messages directly above yours to keep the forum tidy thank you!

It doesn’t say that your evidences has to be NZ sourced for the 12 months... the document only says you both have to be in NZ when you apply (this is because you had supported your husband’s application for a partnership visa already).

So before coming to NZ no bank accounts, remittances, bills, at all?

[annerkz]

allune we do have a joint account but failed to request for a bank certificate, only phone bills are named after husband. other utility bills are under his grandmom's name since they own the house. my bills were directed to my emails and address used was my (maiden) residence, letters from NZQA and Teaching Council of nz were dated january and february 2019.

will probably ask his grandmom to make a tenancy agreement. will figure out how to request a bank cert. overseas and gather more letters.

thank you so much.

[allune]

annerkz

The purpose of #2 is showing you lived together in one house for at least 12 months.

1. Bank statements would be better because it would show a monthly/quarterly period and it would naturally have an address esp if it was mailed. Do you have online banking, maybe access that download the statements. I’m with BPI sa Pinas I’m able to download quarterly statements from BPI Express Online. Also yung address ba nito ay yung grandmother’s house?

2. If only husband is named sa bills for example, you also to supply mails of correspondence addressed to you as mentioned. It’s not an issue if you used your maiden name. Di naman required magpalit ng pangalan sa NZ and or sa Pinas kapag ikinasal (just make sure you are submitting proof that you are the same person). If walang document na naka address sayo na kasing importante ng bills, other correspondence would have to do. Receipt, delivery ng online order, meal delivery... anything you can think of that would show your name and the same address your husband has used. NBI?

One proof that a friend shared that she submitted is someone of authority sa barangay nila had attested na iisang bahay sila + barangay clearance.

Regarding the mails you got addressed to your old residence sa pagkadalaga... any reason bakit ganun? Maybe supply that with them.

3. Tenancy agreement from the grandmother would be great although in the PH who actually puts things in legalese kapag nakikitira sa house ng family? A tenancy agreement kasi is executed before you move into a house so if you ask to make it now... backdated dapat yun and pwede siyang masabi na false evidence. That’s why I suggested writing a letter or submitting an affidavit under oath detailing the arrangements because submitting that is better than not submitting anything at all.

[allune]

annerkz just want to share this too. This is the actual provision that requires the proof of living together. Notice the operative phrase “but is not limited to”. You can actually submit proof you are able to submit according to your situation... INZ is not that restrictive na kung ano lang ang nakalista yun lang ang pwedeng ipakita...

[annerkz]

salamat po ng marami.

[paulangmasunget]

Hi annerkz , INZ is pretty strict on resident partnership visa and living together for a year is a must for them. Were you living separately while here in NZ?

We just recently submitted ours as well.

1. Joint tenancy agreement (Tenancy agreement signed forms)
2. Joint assets (Joint Savings Account, Tenancy Bond Fee named to both of us, Joint bank account we use for expenses such as groceries or dinners)
3. Joint Insurance - If you have car insurance policy, you can add your partner as "Other Driver" or if you have a Life Insurance here, list your partner as a beneficiary. It's easy to do that online and you can generate the document quickly if you're under AA.
4. We also gathered a lot of bank monthly statements that were on the same month even if not addressed to both of us. We also shop online and we included empty parcels or utility bills to prove na we are living together.

[annerkz]

hi @paulamasunget . 😊 thank you for your reply. we just arrived here last may 13, 2019. we do have tenancy agreement and car insurance but still premature (1 month old). we are trying to email metrobank re: issuance of bank statements/cert for our joint acct.

I usually have my parcels/orders delivered to my previous employer so I can receive them personally. for my other bills I didnt take the time changing my address because paperless viewing was already available. we have 1 hospital bill, UMID with same address, NBI clearance with same address (but issued this january), NZ teaching council mail (sent this feb.), SSS receipt dated last year.

hopefully tanggapin nila.

[charcharbinks]

Hi guys, ask ko lang pag nag lodge ng documents 3months after receiving the ITA email, and considering na ang tagal (umaabot 1+month sa nababasa ko) bago i-debit yung INZ fee, ma coconsider pa kaya yung submission?

Thanks!

[Pepper]

charcharbinks. Yes.
Naglodge kami exactly 4months after ITA email (maximised yung time for the living together proof) and INZ debited our account 3-weeks after.

They’ll use the actual lodgment date, not the payment debit date.

Here’s mine for example - lodgment date was 28 Feb, debit date March

Attachments:

[charcharbinks]

pepper hay salamat! Thank you! Sa wakas, sa tinagal-tagal ng ITA makakapag pasa na rin. Now the real wait begins lol

[Pepper]

charcharbinks good luck and God bless.

[kawaranai]

Sharing po our SMC timeline

EOI Selection 3 April 2019
ITA Received 4 April 2019
Lodgement date 31 May 2019
Fees Deducted 28 June 2019

[Pepper]

kawaranai Good luck and God bless sa application. 😊😊😊🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[Jude]

Quick question. Kelangan bang isubmit yung original passport or certified copy will do? Thanks

[allune]

Jude sa lodgement no need na original passport. Kahit certified copy lang will do.

[Jude]

Thanks allune

[charcharbinks]

My credit card has been charged, got a notification na ibabalik na daw yung documents ko. this means my file will on a queue and have a sloooow crawl to an immigration officer's desk.

to reduce my anxiety levels, siguro tigilan ko muna tong kakabasa sa forums? hahahaha time to focus on other things in life and try to "forget" about this whole SMC visa thing lololol

goodluck to all of us na nag apply!

[Pepper]

charcharbinks good luck and God bless. pray lang. 😊😊😊

[leanne]

charcharbinks You can email [e-mail] to check if you have a case officer already. I used to email them like once a month, baka kasi di lang nagpaparamdam CO ko but good thing nag email naman sya... after 5 months. Haha

[charcharbinks]

@leanne yay thanks! Masubukan nga yan!

[divhon]

charcharbinks that will be one of the longest and most agonizing wait times na maexperience mo.

I think it made me a better person and improved my patience virtue.

When I was on that stage I can't help to check the forums for wait/CO updates at least 2x a day and refresh my phone email at least 5x a day. So good luck!

[Jude]

i have recieved an email last saturday from inmigration nz informing me na narecieved na nila yung application ko and ibabalik na yung documents ko. based sa ibang forum mukhang medyo mabagal sila mag assign ng co ngayon. may kakilala din ako last january pa sila nag lodge and until now wala pa siyang case officer. Question: Pwede ko ba iapply ng work visa through partnership yung wife ko and student visa mga anak ko while on process yung resident visa application namin? Nasa pinas pa sila ngayon and naisip ko lang na if iapply ko muna sila ng ibang visa para makapunta na kagad sila dito. Thanks.

[charcharbinks]

May nagreply nga from that email, pero 1week ang hinintay ko. hahaha